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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby Mesuge » Wed 12 Jan 2011, 20:38:12

It's evident, you are following your little ADL action manual in pocket edition to the fullest capacity. Just few lines above I typed that holocaust on jews have prolly taken 3-5m of them. And I'm still somehow classified as a denier, that's classic and priceless. :twisted:

Such perversity can't be invented only experienced in live session, and that's why people using these tactics (like in your case) are increasingly hated all over the globe. The next UN vote on Israel won't be U.S. + 3banana republics + 1tax heaven island against the whole world, but rather U.S. alone against the globe, lol..
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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Thu 13 Jan 2011, 10:12:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')h, but gentlemen that is where our understanding diverges. I do not deny the other mass genocides that have happened. But you do deny the Holocaust that happened to the Jews. Which in my book, makes you either disingenuous or just plain ignorant.


answer, 2 books, the first by Holocaust Survivor Martin Gray -
For Those I Loved
by Martin Gray
http://www.amazon.com/Those-I-Loved-Sig ... 0451069420
Martin Gray was a young Jewish boy in Poland when the Nazi's walled it off. He started out by bribing Nazi guards and importing tons of food, which also turned out to be a profitable business. He subsequently was sent to Auschwitz, which he survived by hiding in the latrine.

the second, by Jewish historian Walter Sanning. he used census records to measure the Jewish population in Europe at the beginning of WW2. he found a total of 3.5 million Jewish people.

at the time, the plaque at Auschwitz said "in memory of 4 million". the implication being that 2 million died elsewhere.

after the publication of Sanning's book, the plaque at Auschwitz was quietly changed. it now says, "in memory of 1 1/2 million". which, if you add to 2 million, = 3 1/2 million.

however, many of those 3 1/2 million fled - to Israel, to Russia (where another million Jewish people died.) Sanning estimates the number to die in Nazi Germany at 200,000, a number of casualties which is close to the number of Philippine civilians killed by the US in the Spanish American War - of 1898.

The Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry
by Walter Sanning
http://www.amazon.com/Dissolution-Easte ... 0939484110


American public school history textbooks never caught up.


also, many of the Jewish people who died in Nazi Germany were selected for that fate by Jewish Israel supporters. the stubborn opposition of European Jews was a profound roadblock for those who wanted to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

The Transfer Agreement
by Edwin Black
http://www.transferagreement.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Agreemen ... 0786708417
"The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine (Paperback)"


additionally, there is the fact that Hitler was financially supported by Wall Street.
George Bush, the Un-Authorized Biography.
See Chapter 2, about Wall Street financing Nazi Germany as late as October 1942.
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george- ... biography/


therefore, although Hitler is no longer in power, the people that financed him and helped to create what would be called "The Holocaust" remained in power after the war. Prescott Bush even ran for Senator in Connecticut, a state with a large Jewish population.
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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby Cog » Thu 13 Jan 2011, 19:48:43

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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby Sixstrings » Thu 13 Jan 2011, 21:01:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')h, but gentlemen that is where our understanding diverges. I do not deny the other mass genocides that have happened. But you do deny the Holocaust that happened to the Jews. Which in my book, makes you either disingenuous or just plain ignorant.


What the Germans did with the concentration camps was especially shocking because Germany was a modern, civilized nation -- a different situation from Cambodia or places in Africa.

(yes I'm still critical of Israel, I still think Thomas shouldn't have been fired.. why do people think they have to deny the Holocaust to be critical of anyone Jewish? I just don't get that, both things can be true.. there can be some problems with the Jewish community AND the Holocaust was real)
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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 13 Jan 2011, 21:48:04

Yes it could be true ( and it was ,to a certain degree , imo). But they are not fine with ifs and buts. They want you to believe in it. 6 000 000, and not 1 less, and no investigation is necessory.
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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby jedrider » Thu 13 Jan 2011, 22:20:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', 'M')erely for expressing an opinion and for telling the truth about Israel, Helen Thomas was hounded from her previous job.

You've got to give a hand to the Falls Church News Press - they have hired Helen Thomas, and given her a column to continue honest journalism.

Which, as many PeakOiler's have noted, is quite scarce in America today.

http://www.fcnp.com/news/8196-veteran-j ... ress.html#

"Legendary journalist and 50-year veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas has come out of a seven-month retirement to resume her weekly political affairs column today, published in print and online exclusively in the Falls Church News-Press."


The ADL doesn't like Helen Thomas - she must be doing something right.

http://www.adl.org/ADL_Opinions/Anti_Se ... n+Post.htm


Glad to hear this. Whether Helen Thomas is showing her Palestinian roots or not is immaterial. She expressed an opinion, on the spur of the moment and she should have the right to do so. She doesn't represent government opinion, nor do I remember her being especially assigned to cover Middle East issues, maybe for good reason. Falls Church, Virginia must be a very special place to support that newspaper that is not afraid to mention the 'unspeakable' when justified.

Unfortunately, open debate is not encouraged in our society. This is why we need 'guns' to do the talking for us!! Read 'Manufactured Consent by Noam Chomsky on how much 'debate' is encouraged.
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Re: Honest Journalism - FC News Press Hires Helen Thomas

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Sun 16 Jan 2011, 09:34:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', 'G')lad to hear this. Whether Helen Thomas is showing her Palestinian roots or not is immaterial. She expressed an opinion, on the spur of the moment and she should have the right to do so. She doesn't represent government opinion, nor do I remember her being especially assigned to cover Middle East issues, maybe for good reason. Falls Church, Virginia must be a very special place to support that newspaper that is not afraid to mention the 'unspeakable' when justified.


i think Helen Thomas is Lebanese - but either way she has the courage to speak out about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

one of the interesting things about the so-called "Anti-Defamation League" is that many of the people that get on their "list" have committed the sole "crime" of speaking out about Israeli cruelty towards the Palestinians.

or for speaking out about Al Nakba, the destruction of 400 Palestinian villages by Israel in 1948 - an event which for the Palestinians is similar to the Shoah - the Jewish term for the death of Jewish people in WW2 Germany.


it looks to me that the ADL is a hate-speech organization themselves, one of whose primary purposes is to demonize anybody who speaks out about the huge number of incidents of Israeli cruelty towards the Palestinians.

while simultaneously trying to remind people about how terrible it was for WW2 Germany to treat Jewish people with cruelty.


the short version -
know something about Israeli Apartheid treatment of the Palestinians ? HUSH UP - the ADL doesn't want you talking about it. but if the roles are reversed ... then the ADL wants to shout it from the rooftops.


so, 20 cheers for Helen Thomas for speaking up !
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