[SeaGypsy]

French Indochina (Vietnam ,Cambodia) Spanish Philippines, Dutch Indonesia, British Australia, Malaysia and Singapore, French, American, British Pacific; Thailand sticks out with China as non colonial countries knocked by Japan. The fact these exceptions were the strongest countries in East Asia previously and remain so today belies the idea Japan was benignly relieving East Asia from the shackles of colonialism.
However the point has enough validity to not be dismissed as a 'Crack induced pile of steaming BS'; I think. I have been in SE Asia over 40 years.

[papa moose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('papa moose', 'I')'m a little fuzzy here, Japan bombed Hawaii because they needed "natural resources" to attack China?
What natural resources? Sugar cane? Pineapples?

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'S')eriously. Is there a workable solution aside from total isolationism? We can't stop cheap Chinese labor from existing, and I don't see how we can boot every person out of the country who takes a picture. (I don't see an easy way to fix this.)

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'F')rench Indochina (Vietnam ,Cambodia) Spanish Philippines, Dutch Indonesia, British Australia, Malaysia and Singapore, French, American, British Pacific; Thailand sticks out with China as non colonial countries knocked by Japan. The fact these exceptions were the strongest countries in East Asia previously and remain so today belies the idea Japan was benignly relieving East Asia from the shackles of colonialism.
However the point has enough validity to not be dismissed as a 'Crack induced pile of steaming BS'; I think. I have been in SE Asia over 40 years.

[SeaGypsy]

American presence in the Philippines was weak enough the place was still effectively Spanish through church control. I have two great uncles who were in Bataan on the death march. One ended up serving out the war with the Japanese, the other with the Americans.

When the Japanese set up their recon base in Zambales, prior to the taking of Bataan peninsula, they rounded up 200 random yound men and shot them dead in the town square. This was ramping up the Catholic approach from several hundred years earlier, forced conversion.

As soon as the war was over the uncle with the Japanese came on his knees to the rest of the family for his betrayal. I don't think there is any evidence of American atrocities during the war of East Asia.

I think the Japanese used their Asian-ness to their propoganda advantage; they loved to round up white people and march them to death in public. They had no excuse for what they did to Manchuria or Thailand.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('papa moose', 'Y')our earlier post contained a disconnect in logic, when i pointed it out you ignored/deflected that and instead lectured me on a seperate aspect of the issue. So both my posts in this thread have been an attempt to gain an understanding of what you are trying to say.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I') don't think there is any evidence of American atrocities during the war of East Asia.

[papa moose]

Can you read English?
If so go back and read the first post that i addressed to you in this thread.
You had stated:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'F')rom the Japanese viewpoint, since they were bent on conquest, they had to attack us because they needed those natural resources to ramp up and grab China.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('papa moose', 'N')ow in chronological order Japan invaded China, then Japan bombed PH.
So, i'll say this slowly, Japan's motivation for bombing PH cannot have been that "they needed those natural resources" to invade China.
Does that make sense to you?

[dolanbaker]