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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby meemoe_uk » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 11:11:14

Lmao!
http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/200 ... edlot.html
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 11:14:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('meemoe_uk', 'L')mao!
http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/200 ... edlot.html


JD has some absolute classics doesn't he? That guy had Doomers pegged even before mutliple peak oils became visible on the horizon, and turned out to be a bust anyway.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby dsula » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 11:39:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'm')utliple peak oils became visible on the horizon, and turned out to be a bust anyway.

What do you mean multiple peaks? There's a definition of ABSOLUTE peak. And there's the definition of LOCAL peaks.
When people talk about PO on this forum they usually refer to a LOCAL peak within the timespan of maybe NOW+/- 200 years.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 20:57:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'm')utliple peak oils became visible on the horizon, and turned out to be a bust anyway.

What do you mean multiple peaks? There's a definition of ABSOLUTE peak.


Of course there is. Multiple peaks is a recognition of the fact that calling a peak oil, for whatever reason, is time dependent. In 1983, the peak had come and gone, oil supply the world over was in decline, it was horrifying.

Of course....after all the hand wringing, hysteria, President calls for action, it turns out that it didn't matter much, and the world went nearly 15 years before ANOTHER peak of production was reached. Rinse and repeat.

We currently have been going through the same sort of peak hysteria. And we are perhaps discovering, just like we did during that old peak, that maybe..it was all just another booboo!

http://earlywarn.blogspot.com/2010/12/p ... crude.html

And don't even get me started on how many decades can take place between one peak and another.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 21:06:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'H')ow times have I explained "multiple peaks" to you?


Why don't you use some IHS recovery factor graphs to pretend to defend USGS undiscovered resource numbers again....that was quite the pstarr quality explanation moment.

About the only thing in common between your last "explanations" was the letter S.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 21:16:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '
')What do you mean multiple peaks?


That's Shorty's invention, that there is no Hubbert curve, but just a big unpredictable jagged line that continues forever into the future, therefore anytime it looks like we're post peak, we'll catch another wave.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 23:11:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'F')rom your link shorty,

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Like I said. Multiple peak, multiple metrics. Very simple!


Bring on more peaks! Us humans love'em!
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 23:14:05

The "multiple peak" argument is laughable really. Its also very naive and short sighted...short..get it??? :)

Most of us here buy into the longer term problems associated with our energy solutions once decline sets in..and it will. We just have to be patient. It wont be catastrophic or "doomerish" but it will present serious problems for our economies and our need for energy in some sort of abundance and affordability.

Xeno, Short, whomever, is just the typical internet troll. He is here for one reason and one reason only. To throw a wrench into the works. Those "works" are mature, coherent discussions and investigations into discerning when the decline begins and how it will affect our futures. He can label us doomers and lunatics all he wants. He is wrong. We know it, we understand the nature of PO. Its all going to be about how we deal with it, not denying it is ever going to happen. He can scream about some silly argument against PO all he wants, but in the end he just ends up the fool.

I choose not to join him.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 23:45:21

A-P, sorry for off-top, I noticed a lot of planes go down now , is it fair to say that all these $ losses that companies suffered and lack of investment will encourage usage of old planes vs buying new ones, which in its turn will cause a higher (or much higher) accident ratio?
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Mon 10 Jan 2011, 23:53:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'T')he "multiple peak" argument is laughable really. Its also very naive and short sighted...short..get it??? :)


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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
')Most of us here buy into the longer term problems associated with our energy solutions once decline sets in..and it will. We just have to be patient. It wont be catastrophic or "doomerish" but it will present serious problems for our economies and our need for energy in some sort of abundance and affordability.


Most here don't realize that long term energy problems started in the 19th century. And were horrible in 1915 with gasoline spiking like 200%+. Didn't stop any of our grandparents from making not only all of us, but inventing suburbia AFTER this hysteria.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
') Xeno is just the typical internet troll. He is here for one reason and one reason only. To throw a wrench into the works. Those "works" are mature, coherent discussions and investigations into discerning when the decline begins and how it will affect our futures.


Point at one of those which has happened on this website in...oh....the past year. Just one. We'll revive it, you and I, and I promise not to use the word "hysterical", not once. I'll do better than that, I will not post in that thread without at least one footnote within every post I make to verify some point of technical fact or perspective. ... and yet another ad hom deleted

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
')He can scream about some silly argument against PO all he wants, but in the end he just ends up the fool.

I choose not to join him.


I choose to face peak oil with hopes and dreams...like buying my own personal aircraft because peak didn't won't stop me from getting fuel for it. Now there is a worthy thing for a peak optimist like me to do, because burning that fuel is just so much fun, and hey! Peak oil hasn't been bad enough to stop me from doing what I like to do!
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 11 Jan 2011, 01:35:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', ' ')Xeno, Short, whomever, is just the typical internet troll. He is here for one reason and one reason only. To throw a wrench into the works. Those "works" are mature, coherent discussions and investigations into discerning when the decline begins and how it will affect our futures.


Oil Panic and the Global Crisis: Predictions & Myths

The author, Stephen Gorelick, PhD, is a Professor of Earth Sciences at Stanford University. No "internet troll" he.

Gorelick has compiled the doomer argument really well and leaves out absolutely nothing. He uses only the best sources of data and information available. He then does exactly the same thing for the counter-argument to doom. Anyone who reads his excellent book will be able to see that the counter-argument is the more convincing one.

Xeno, JD, RGR, myself... We have simply looked at this information and drawn obvious conclusions. There might be energy-related tribulations for any of a variety of reasons, but there won't be any PO-caused collapse. Go the link, download the book and see for yourself. This is why everyone else in the whole effing world doesn't give a rat's ass about peak oil. You have to go to places like PO.com where the doomers are concentrated by their shared collapse-wish.

Over and over again, you see threads on PO.com (like What's your Timeline for Collapse?) where the paltry few familiar names we see repeatedly speak up and testify to the truth of the prophecy like good Mormons on Sunday. It's something they do between and among themselves only. And really, there are only a paltry few who do it. The rest of the world just doesn't give a damn despite all the books, films, articles, videos and whatnot over the last several years.

BTW, Xeno, AP is not much of a thinker. You can easily defeat him as I have done countless times. He's a pussycat gives up when you outsmart him, which isn't hard. Sometimes he evens runs for help! It's pretty funny. Spank him! It's fun. :lol:
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Xenophobe » Tue 11 Jan 2011, 11:27:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')BTW, Xeno, AP is not much of a thinker. You can easily defeat him as I have done countless times. He's a pussycat gives up when you outsmart him, which isn't hard. Sometimes he evens runs for help! It's pretty funny. Spank him! It's fun. :lol:


Just another voice in the choir. He said, somewhere, that my error was right in front of my face, so I did a quick review of all the points I had been laying down as of late...he never responded. Of course, given how poorly things have been working out from a McDoomster point of view, maybe thats the best response available to him....just stop talking and keep praying for Rapture to show SOME signs, SOME where.
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:58:33

Oooh.. the wittoo baby needs his diaper changed again. Poo!
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Re: Peak oil denialists on this message board?

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 11 Jan 2011, 15:07:14

You just throw tantrums.

*yawn*
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