What will you be filling your tank with in 20 years?

by **Bytesmiths** » Mon 16 May 2005, 11:27:50

Rapeseed or algae oil that we produce ourselves. But it will probably be reserved for essential farm machinery, and the occasional trip into town, since none of us will be commuting.

by **DomusAlbion** » Mon 16 May 2005, 11:32:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bytesmiths', 'R')apeseed or algae oil that we produce ourselves. But it will probably be reserved for essential farm machinery, and the occasional trip into town, since none of us will be commuting.

by **Dezakin** » Mon 16 May 2005, 15:50:13

In 20 years you'll easily be filling up on diesel fuel or possibly still gasoline, and you can bet that most of it will come from fossil fuel. It will likely just be from coal instead of oil.

by **Omnitir** » Mon 16 May 2005, 17:29:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', 'I')n 20 years you'll easily be filling up on diesel fuel or possibly still gasoline, and you can bet that most of it will come from fossil fuel. It will likely just be from coal instead of oil.

by **Bytesmiths** » Mon 16 May 2005, 17:32:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', 'I')n 20 years you'll easily be filling up on diesel fuel or possibly still gasoline...

by **oowolf** » Mon 16 May 2005, 17:48:57

firewood. wood-gas power

by **smallpoxgirl** » Mon 16 May 2005, 20:47:03

I plan on using a complicated high-tech transportation device that is powered by composting grass clippings. link

by **ArimoDave** » Mon 16 May 2005, 21:01:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') plan on using a complicated high-tech transportation device that is powered by composting grass clippings. link

by **smallpoxgirl** » Mon 16 May 2005, 21:09:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ArimoDave', 'P')S Will you get grass at the filling station? There was a name for the filling stations in the old days for these machines -- a Livery.

by **bentstrider** » Mon 16 May 2005, 21:41:33

I'll probably use a horse to assist me in making fuels for my trips that require some-what higher speeds.
I'm definetely not keeping all my eggs in one basket.
Use my horse sparingly, use my pick-up and motorcycle sparingly, they'll all take turns pushing the loads around.

by **Bas** » Wed 18 May 2005, 06:33:01

So what alternatives will be here first on a significant scale? My bet is on alcohol and biodiesel in 5 years

by **Starvid** » Wed 18 May 2005, 10:49:52

Ordinary diesel and gasoline, maybe blended with ethanol. Also electricity from a plug-in battery.

Most of the time I won't be travelling by car though. I'll travel with electric trains, trams, scooters, hybrid buses, and by bike.

by **Battle_Scarred_Galactico** » Wed 18 May 2005, 11:09:32

nothing because you won't be driving. Maybe some people will have the means to but it won't be many.

by **Licho** » Wed 18 May 2005, 11:46:14

Biosiesel is already big player in europe, so i expect this to continue further. Compressed natural gas and LPG will also follow it's increase curve.
Later, I think that many cars will be electric (at least partially, like hybrids). What will be further, hard to say.. perhaps synthetic combustion fuels, fuel cells or even some advanced batteries will join the mix. New materials can really help with batteries, and they could be best solution for short range trips. But I don't believe we will be all driving on same stuff like now, because no alternative we know is perfect. We will have to mix it. What is good for a truck (biodiesel) is not be best for short ranges trips in city (electric or even fuel cells).

by **Bas** » Wed 18 May 2005, 12:45:25

natural gas is said to peak only a couple of years after oil......

by **cat** » Wed 18 May 2005, 17:49:26

They better start pumping these alternative cars out fast. I would love to get my hands on a diesel or a hybrid now, but there is nothing available that will hold my family of 6. Maybe a hybrid Sienna in 2 years if there isn't a waiting list and we can afford a 40,000K car. My husband would love a diesel electric hybrid, but I haven't seen any for sale around here. Bush said something the other day to the effect of, that he thought in 25 years 15% (not sure of the exact %) of the country could be driving around in biofueled cars. What about the rest of us? Sadly, I think in 20 years we will all be scrambling.

by **baldwincng** » Wed 18 May 2005, 18:32:43

There is a long time to go before natural gas peak day, probably around 20 years more than oil. Many countries only starting to look for it now.

In addition, its a renewable fuel, being made as waste decomposes, and it is being produced from coal in China. So thats the answer, run all vehicles on clean, efficient natural gas. Certainly the Iranians aim to do that by 2020 and CNG is taking off big time in Germany.

Running vehicles on hydrogen made from natural gas is do-lally and a waste of valuable energy.

by **bentstrider** » Wed 18 May 2005, 20:38:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baldwincng', 'T')here is a long time to go before natural gas peak day, probably around 20 years more than oil. Many countries only starting to look for it now.

In addition, its a renewable fuel, being made as waste decomposes, and it is being produced from coal in China. So thats the answer, run all vehicles on clean, efficient natural gas. Certainly the Iranians aim to do that by 2020 and CNG is taking off big time in Germany.

Running vehicles on hydrogen made from natural gas is do-lally and a waste of valuable energy.

by **pea-jay** » Thu 19 May 2005, 03:08:57

If small scale biodiesel brewing does not pan out for me, the only thing in my gas tank will be cobwebs.

Plus don't forget folks, a complete crash will deprive most of your vehicles of spare parts, especially techno parts.

Old diesel trucks may the best route to go in my opionion.

by **The_Virginian** » Thu 19 May 2005, 08:50:06

hay and alfalfa will go in one end.

gooey fertilizer will come out the other.

but I've always been ahead of the times, so maybe others will still be using "alternatives"

What will you be filling your tank with in 20 years?

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