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Coffee prices to possibly double

Postby skiwi » Sun 15 May 2005, 08:38:07

Cafe coffee prices set to boil over

...Coffee is the world's second-most-traded commodity - behind crude oil, which has also soared in price...

.." Within a year coffee prices could be double what they are now."..
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Postby jimmyz » Sun 15 May 2005, 08:59:56

it has almost doubled here in the past 6 months. :x
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Postby Jack » Sun 15 May 2005, 09:00:32

Now, this is getting serious! 8O

Time for a trip to Costco....
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Postby TheTurtle » Sun 15 May 2005, 09:30:44

The Good News: Coffee was popular in the 17th and 18th centuries --- pre-Oil Bubble --- so as long as wooden ships set out to sea, there should continue to be an adequate supply.

The Bad News: It wasn't vacuum packed until 1900, so if you want to continue drinking it, you might consider purchasing a coffee grinder so that you can grind your own beans. Oh, and be sure to purchase a MANUAL grinder rather than an ELECTRIC one. :lol:

(Note to self: Add coffee to the growing list of habits to break before Post-Peak forces involuntary withdrawal)
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Postby aahala » Sun 15 May 2005, 10:46:53

OMG. This means that at Starbucks, they will increase retail prices
1% if they just pass on the increase in the price of the input, or
will add $4 a cup if they take their usual markup. :)
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Postby ararboin » Sun 15 May 2005, 12:03:11

I read somewhere that coffee production is a tremendous polluter of rivers, etc. from production residues. Can't remember facts but it seemed to be in the thousands of gallons of water polluted for a small amount of coffee produced. Anybody else heard of that? Maybe it is time to wean oneself from coffee.
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Postby Ludi » Sun 15 May 2005, 12:50:23

You can buy organic, fair trade, forest-grown coffee. It's already very expensive!
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Postby bobaloo » Sun 15 May 2005, 16:03:12

If you like coffee, roast your own. It's dead easy, been doing it for a couple of years. First, you can buy some of the world's finest estate-labeled coffee, in an amazing variety, for $3-$5 per pound (green). Second, it keeps for many years in the green state without deteriorating, so you can squirrel away a 25 pound sack and it'll still be good in 3-4 years. Finally, it makes the best coffee you've ever had.

I've been using just a Poppery hot air popcorn popper, just picked up one of those metal basket dealies with a stirring device, also designed for popcorn, going to give that a try to do bigger batches.

For more info visit SweetMaria's
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Postby Schneider » Sun 15 May 2005, 20:23:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobaloo', 'I')f you like coffee, roast your own. It's dead easy, been doing it for a couple of years. First, you can buy some of the world's finest estate-labeled coffee, in an amazing variety, for $3-$5 per pound (green). Second, it keeps for many years in the green state without deteriorating, so you can squirrel away a 25 pound sack and it'll still be good in 3-4 years. Finally, it makes the best coffee you've ever had.

I've been using just a Poppery hot air popcorn popper, just picked up one of those metal basket dealies with a stirring device, also designed for popcorn, going to give that a try to do bigger batches.

For more info visit SweetMaria's


Can i use some of theses green beans to grow my own small coffee plants 8O !? I've hear you can get between 1-2 pounds of it with small bush grow indoor...

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Postby savethehumans » Mon 16 May 2005, 07:38:33

**S I G H**

Coffee and cola--the two beverages I will miss most after the crash. :(

Think I'll go visit my favorite coffeehouse today--while I still can.
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Postby DomusAlbion » Mon 16 May 2005, 08:33:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'Y')ou can buy organic, fair trade, forest-grown coffee. It's already very expensive!


The Catholic Church promotes the purchase of "fair trade" coffee. We buy it through our local parish.
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Postby Leanan » Mon 16 May 2005, 09:41:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Good News: Coffee was popular in the 17th and 18th centuries --- pre-Oil Bubble --- so as long as wooden ships set out to sea, there should continue to be an adequate supply.


Um...you realize the population of people drinking coffee was much lower back then, don't you? And it was a luxury drink, for the wealthy only.

There's a discussion about growing coffee in the "Planning For the Future" section. Basically, it's not likely you'll grow much in United States (except for Hawaii). While you may get a few berries with a tree kept indoors, you won't get a lot, and what you get won't be very good quality. Coffee is very sensitive to growing conditions.

I do think there may be some trade in coffee beans, even after TSHTF. It won't be cheap, though. I have a feeling coffee will become something enjoyed on special occasions, rather than every morning.
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Postby accept_death » Fri 20 May 2005, 11:01:06

Coffee is basically poison. The "buzz" you get from it is your body going into hyper mode to dispell the toxin. Caffeine is also extremely addictive. Withdrawl symptoms are miserable (headaches and anxiety attacks amongst them) and can last for months after you stop drinking it, though most never quit for that long. Part of the problem is that it's such a socially acceptable addiction, unlike nicotine or alcohol. Coffee is always readily available. Everyone drinks it, so it must not be bad. But do an online search on "caffeine addiction", or on the book "Caffeine Blues" and it might turn up some suprising information. Here's a sample link to start:

http://www.justeatanapple.com/coffee.html

Personally, I never had any problems with cigarette's or alcohol, in terms of getting addicted. I can smoke and drink pretty much all I want (which isn't all that much) and not have to worry about dependance. Caffeine is quite a different story. I tried to cut back a couple of times. During a low stress time I lasted 10 days. During a high stress time, 2. The moral? Quit now, before you don't have a choice.
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Postby Leanan » Fri 20 May 2005, 11:31:02

Caffeine withdrawal can be nasty. People often think they've come down with the flu or something. It's that bad.

However, unlike most drug addictions, gradual withdrawal works well with caffeine. There's no need to go cold turkey. Drink less coffee, or mix decaf with regular. If you cut back each week by a third of a cup a day (or one can of cola), it's pretty painless.
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Postby bruin » Fri 20 May 2005, 12:17:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobaloo', 'I')f you like coffee, roast your own. It's dead easy, been doing it for a couple of years. First, you can buy some of the world's finest estate-labeled coffee, in an amazing variety, for $3-$5 per pound (green). Second, it keeps for many years in the green state without deteriorating, so you can squirrel away a 25 pound sack and it'll still be good in 3-4 years. Finally, it makes the best coffee you've ever had.

I've been using just a Poppery hot air popcorn popper, just picked up one of those metal basket dealies with a stirring device, also designed for popcorn, going to give that a try to do bigger batches.

For more info visit SweetMaria's


Can i use some of theses green beans to grow my own small coffee plants 8O !? I've hear you can get between 1-2 pounds of it with small bush grow indoor...

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Good coffee likes to be grown at high altitudes where it doesn't snow. Not many places like it but you can see why Central America is a good source.

So you can probably grow your own, but unless you're in the right climate you will probably be disapointed.
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Postby stu » Fri 20 May 2005, 12:58:15

Coffee prices on a caffeine buzz

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')offee prices have reached their highest levels in the past five years, the Viet Nam Coffee and Cocoa Association has (VICOFA) has reported.

On Tuesday, the purchase price from farmers was VND15-15.7 million (US$951-$995.6) per tonne and VND16.2 million ($1,027) at wholesale agencies.



Coffee Prices May Rise as Vietnam, Brazil Droughts Shrink Crops

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')offee grower Hoang Cong Hoan says his harvest this year may slump 30 percent as his farm in Vietnam, the world's second-biggest producer of the beans, faces the worst drought since at least 1975.

``Coffee prices are higher, but my production will fall and my costs have risen,'' said Hoan in an interview in Dak Lak province, which grows 54 percent of Vietnam's coffee. ``Water prices are 50 percent higher than a year ago.''
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Postby erl » Fri 20 May 2005, 15:17:22

I am a coffee drinker. I have several coffee plants growing out in my yard. They have yet to produce any beans. I don't know how long it takes. Also, the climate may be too hot here. It's supposed to get to 113 this weekend. *sigh*

But as to withdrawl symptoms:

Periodically, I stop all caffeine intake. Usually whenever I go on vacation. This always results in headaches. They usually last for about three days and then go away. I know they say it takes longer for all the caffeine to exit your system. But for me, three days seems to do it.

Another effect that I have noticed in myself: I used to be a competitive shooter. If I stopped drinking coffee and coke a couple of days or so before the meet my scores would improve. Now, at three hundred yards it doesn't take much of a shaking trigger finger to throw off your score, but the caffeine and lack of caffeine was sure a noticeable difference.

I love coffee, but I do notice the problems it can cause.
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Postby Hubbert2005 » Sat 21 May 2005, 09:31:22

I can attest to the symptoms of coffee withdrawal. For about a week I had acute symptoms like severe headache and muscle aches and pains. It felt like I had the flu minus the nausea! :(
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Postby erl » Mon 23 May 2005, 17:27:08

That is an excellent description of the effects.
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Postby dirac » Mon 23 May 2005, 17:49:34

To answer araboin's earlier point about caffeine pollution in water - this was the subject of my Oceanography Honours project over a decade ago - using caffeine as a trace of marine pollution. Oceanographers want to trace the flow of pollution from rivers to the sea. In the past, such items as tomato seeds and dyes have been used. My project involved taking water samples from various points along the river Mersey near Liverpool and measuring caffeine concentrations. It was indeed detectable - all those small swills of coffee that you pour into the sink do add up eventually, and can be traced.

Incidentally, raw caffeine was the most dangerous chemical I handled at University. I had to wear a mask and gloves. If you breathed in the raw dust it was likely to trigger a heart attack. Dangerous stuff.
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