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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 22 Nov 2010, 21:04:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blacksmith', 'T')hank your president that gave China most favoured nation status. Anyone care to guess who it was?


Thats easy. Bill Clinton campaigned AGAINST granting China MFN, but once in office he flip-flopped and granted China MFN.

Bill Clinton's big lie on most-favored nation status for China
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 22 Nov 2010, 21:11:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blacksmith', 'T')hank your president that gave China most favoured nation status. Anyone care to guess who it was?


It was going to happen anyway. The big banks rule America. The big banks are ruled by their biggest shareholders; old money.

It makes no difference to QE policy who is in the actual seat of office.

This is about lifting China's status quo whilst dropping America's.

They will meet in the middle. Wherever that is.
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby Sixstrings » Mon 22 Nov 2010, 23:35:38

Pat Buchanan wrote a good article about the rise of China and decline of America, and whose fault it is:

http://peakoil.com/forums/buchanan-china-s-rise-is-fault-of-free-trade-republicans-t60129.html

(hint -- it's the globalist free trading Republicans' fault, along with their conservadem lackeys)
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 01:12:59

So Guru of the moment blames the repug for the act they voted for which was finally proceeded under a dumo president; kinda proves the point doesn't it? When are you yanks going to realise you are not in charge, nor living in a real democracy?

Money rules. A lot of big players in moneywold are American. These did not become big players in moneyworld by giving a rat's bum about America.
The big money has been in international trading since the invention of the stock market by the Dutch East India company 400 odd years ago.
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 17:53:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '[')b]So Guru of the moment blames the repug for the act they voted for which was finally proceeded under a dumo president;


I forget that folks in other countries have no idea who someone like Pat Buchanan is. He's hardly a "guru of the moment:"

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')atrick Joseph "Pat" Buchanan (born November 2, 1938) is an American conservative political commentator, author, syndicated columnist, politician and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior adviser to American Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan, and was an original host on CNN's Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election.

He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause.[1] He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. He is currently a political commentator on the MSNBC cable network including the show Morning Joe and a regular on The McLaughlin Group.
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 23 Nov 2010, 19:42:04

Sorry sixstrings it's a nuance in Australian English; Plato or Aristotle can equally be 'guru of the moment' if quoted in context.

Point being it doesn't matter who Pat is, who Plato or Aristotle were or who was at the so called 'Helm Office' at the time free trade with China was let loose. My point is the decision was made in the engine room; where the money is, the guys on deck had to do as they were told to keep their line of credit.
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby Sixstrings » Wed 24 Nov 2010, 04:23:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Point being it doesn't matter who Pat is, who Plato or Aristotle were or who was at the so called 'Helm Office' at the time free trade with China was let loose. My point is the decision was made in the engine room; where the money is, the guys on deck had to do as they were told to keep their line of credit.


A bit of context. Maybe this was never an issue of national debate in Australia, but at one time it was here in the US. I remember. Was the '90s, the period of Ross Perot and Buchanan's campaigns. They WARNED us this day would come. So that's why it's interesting to me, because I remember wondering at the time, well okay which one of these guys is right Al Gore or Ross Perot (they debated NAFTA on the Larry King show).

Al Gore told us NAFTA and more globalism would only create American jobs, not destroy them. Perot said that was a bunch of hooey and that there'd be a "giant sucking sound" of American jobs leaving offshore.

Turns out Perot was right, for whatever that's worth.

About Australia.. is there any tension over Chinese dominance? Anyone nervous about Chinese nationals buying mines, farmland, homes, businesses?
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Re: Quantitative Easing sends US jobs to China

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 24 Nov 2010, 09:35:58

Until recently we had a PM who spoke fluent Mandarin and Cantonese.
The current PM is learning.

The big mulah has spoken and said:

"Congratulations Australia!
By virtue of being 'the Lucky Country'
You have won!
The right to dig the world's biggest swimming pool!
The right to sell the stuff you dig to pay for the fuel you use digging it!
And even better!
You get to live in cloud cuckoo na na land for another 15 years!
While America goes begging to Canada and Europe to Russia.
While the middle east gets armed for armageddon.
Wooppeee!"

I'm just so dang glad my mom was Australian.
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