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Re: Unexplained, very large missile launched 35 miles off LA

Postby Cloud9 » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 21:04:14

Mid Pacific, that way, nobody will recover the wreakage and determine the level or origin of the missile system.
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Re: Unexplained, very large missile launched 35 miles off LA

Postby Cog » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 21:31:07

You might be interested in this test facility west of where the video was shot.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=33.2 ... 7&t=h&z=12

Further information here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Nicolas_Island


Unless this was an intercontinental ballistic missile test, we are under no obligation to inform the Russians or Chinese about it.
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Re: Unexplained, very large missile launched 35 miles off LA

Postby Lore » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 21:47:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')ou might be interested in this test facility west of where the video was shot.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=33.2 ... 7&t=h&z=12

Further information here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Nicolas_Island


Unless this was an intercontinental ballistic missile test, we are under no obligation to inform the Russians or Chinese about it.


So one of our nuclear subs just popped off a test launch in the middle of commercial air space without informing anyone? Then again, since ground and in flight commercial air traffic never reported anything, what could it be?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;The FAA ran radar replays of a large area west of Los Angeles based on media reports of the possible missile launch at approximately 5 p.m. (PT) on Monday. The radar replays did not reveal any fast moving, unidentified targets in that area," said FAA spokesman Ian Gregor. "The FAA did not receive reports ... of unusual sightings from pilots who were flying in the area on Monday afternoon.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Crazy_Dad » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 21:48:09

Zerohedge had the official explanation:
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Re: Unexplained, very large missile launched 35 miles off LA

Postby Plantagenet » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 21:58:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '.').. it was probably a test firing to remind the Chinese that we still have this capability. He mentioned we test fired an ICBM from a sub in the Atlantic once; if this was a test, it would be the first one we've done in the Pacific.


So the US is flexing its military muscle the day before the G20 meeting to defend our fundamental right as Americans to ignore what China and the rest of the world say and go ahead and do "Quantitative Easing"?

That could be right.... 8)
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Lore » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 22:13:09

Jet contrails from some angles look like missile trails

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')Edit - This post was originally from Jan 19th, 2010. I've updated it with information about the "Mystery Missile" contrail of Nov 8, 2010, at the bottom of this post. Clearly it's the same thing]

[Edit again - I've mirrored this here as apparently my contrailscience.com server is crashing, sorry]

An interesting contrail cropped up off the coast of San Clemente, Orange County, California on December 31st 2009. The curious shape led some people to think it’s a missile launch, which it does kind of look like (all taken from San Clemente)

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"Missile-like" contrail. Note this is the Dec 31st contrail, not the Nov 8th CBS one. That's at the bottom of the post.
http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-4
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Niagara » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 22:47:40

Jeez Louise Lore, did you actually watch the video?
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Lore » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 22:57:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', 'J')eez Louise Lore, did you actually watch the video?


Yes, the facts just don't add up to anything other then the conclusion of the link I posted above. As Groucho said; "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby dissident » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 23:17:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nless this was an intercontinental ballistic missile test, we are under no obligation to inform the Russians or Chinese about it.


What sorts of missiles do submarines usually launch? That would be ICBMs.

The trajectory of this one was typically ICBM and not that of some tactical missile.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Lore » Tue 09 Nov 2010, 23:29:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nless this was an intercontinental ballistic missile test, we are under no obligation to inform the Russians or Chinese about it.


What sorts of missiles do submarines usually launch? That would be ICBMs.

The trajectory of this one was typically ICBM and not that of some tactical missile.


The most likely flight is US Aiways flight 808 with a trajectory of Hawaii to Phoenix.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby gollum » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 00:46:14

Has there been any military reaction to the event? I can't imagine an ICBM could be launched off our coast without some sort of reaction from the military. Has anyone with military contacts heard anything?
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Rod_Cloutier » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 00:57:34

Could some private wealthy billionaire somewhere have built and launched his own rocket into space? (Its something I've dreamed of doing).

With my poor health becoming an astronaut was never a possibility, many others are in the same boat. If you were super rich, bored, and wanted to build a rocket so you could stand on the moon and watch the Earthrise- would you let anyone stop you? Would you even need to notify anyone that you were going to do so?

So the answer could well be a privately launched rocket.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby deMolay » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 02:21:18

Maybe it was China showing how close they could come to the USA and lauch undetected? Why is Obama getting a free pass on this story. Should he not be asked.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby sparky » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 02:55:17

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Complete rubbish , if it had been a missile the " defence shield " lobby would be baying for funds
........for the good dope
http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/

PS it is quite natural for freaked out people to see angels in the sky or flying saucers it only prove people are anxious about their fate
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby dorlomin » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 05:01:45

This blog suggests that jet contrails have been mistaken for missile launches before.

Given just two or three images from identifible locactions and this mystery should be solved. The further appart the locations the better.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Ludi » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 05:19:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'H')as there been any military reaction to the event? I can't imagine an ICBM could be launched off our coast without some sort of reaction from the military.



Nobody could have imagined that hijacked passenger jets could have wandered around in the most protected airspace in America without some sort of reaction from the military. :|
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Mesuge » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 05:48:09

Ludi, no that would be a conspiracy theory. Everybody knows, that due to summer 2001 sunspot activity, masive swamp gas release and other unrelated effects, such as ongoing mil. drills about highjacked airliners, it was perfectly legit to be almost 2hours without proper AF protection on that day. Besides, there is a separate thread for this crazy talk.. Singing off, it sounds like Al-qaeda combatants are trespassing to my veggie garden, right now!
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Niagara » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 07:03:30

This post at Air Vent debunks the airplane contrail theory once and for all.

http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/hide-the-incline/#more-10829

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'y')ou can see there is a light at the head of the contrail. What is more telling is that there is no gap between the light and the smoke. That means that the smoke is not water vapor. Were it vapor, there would be a gap of clear air as the gas cooled and the air condensed. Think of any plane contrail you’ve ever seen, were there any rocket style lights behind the plane? Did the vapor touch the plane or form behind? More importantly than even that, the contrail has turbulence which has a visually significant size. You can judge the size of the contrail by the roughness of the column.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat is more telling than even all of this overwhelming evidence, is the angle of the contrail. From a sub, missiles launch vertically, it is only after they gain aerodynamic speed that they begin to tilt over using air for lift. See the straight up path, followed immediately by the course correction! That is exactly the trail you would expect from a missile. The multiple slightly awkward course corrections are also indications as well.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he video is incomplete, the contrail comes to an abrupt halt and without full video how can we interpret it? From my opinion, it looks like a first stage launch of a solid rocket booster from a sub (because there is no land). The only question I have is how they shut down the rocket so instantaneously. Where is the falling junk or the next stage? That means to me that it was likely of US origin.

Still there are two possibilities.

1 – the US is launching hardware outside of treaty and prohibited law.

2 – Someone who doesn’t like the US, just showed us that we are very vulnerable.

In either case the US government has some excuse to lie.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby dissident » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 08:29:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2') – Someone who doesn’t like the US, just showed us that we are very vulnerable.


This is unlikely. The USSR during the cold war never launched off the US coast but did have subs prowling near it. The tension with Russia is not at the cold war level (unless there is a secret cold war going). China has subs but a big chunk of their livelihood depends on good relations with the west so sending such a signal over some currency devaluation would be bizarre.
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Re: Missile Launch Off California Coast

Postby Sixstrings » Wed 10 Nov 2010, 15:22:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '[')url=http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-440]This blog suggests that jet contrails have been mistaken for missile launches before.[/url]


But there are videos from multiple angles.. the "odd angle" theory only applies to ONE ANGLE. Or two angles at most.. the other being 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
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