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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 02:12:56

Tamil Nadu orders probe into bird flu virus report:-
Chennai | May 12, 2005 4:40:28 PM IST

Chennai, May 12 : The Tamil Nadu government has ordered an inquiry into reports that a strain of bird flu was found in this south Indian state by an American laboratory.
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media report said two days ago that the Atlanta-based Centre for Disease Control and Prevention had confirmed that it found the H5N1 bird flu virus in samples sent by the Indian Council for Medical Research (ICMR) when the disease was raging in many Asian countries last year.

ICMR had sent the samples drawn in 2002 from its referral laboratory at the King Institute of Preventive Medicine in Chennai. The samples were drawn from three poultry farm workers in Kattangalathur, 45 km from here.

The report caused alarm in the health department here as poultry is a major state industry.

Following the report, Health Secretary Sheela Rani Chunkath held a meeting with experts Wednesday. It is learnt that King Institute director Nalini Ramamurthy was also present.

The government has ordered Director of Medical Education P. Vijayalakshmi to investigate the reported bird flu strain found among Tamil Nadu poultry workers.

The three poultry workers have not had bird flu and are doing well.

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Making its way around the world quite well so far isn't it?
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 02:18:34

Their learning to share again...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ooperation resumes over bird flu
WHO pandemic preparations
WHO: Avian flu
CDC: Avian flu
CDC: Spread of avian flu

BY DELTHIA RICKS
STAFF WRITER

May 12, 2005

Countries affected by the bird flu outbreak have resumed sharing viral specimens with World Health Organization scientists after an eight-month drought, public health experts said yesterday.

Sharing is vital in the global effort to understand how the virus may be evolving, changes that could affect ongoing efforts to produce an effective vaccine against a type of flu that experts say could trigger a global pandemic. Public health officials in Southeast Asia had agreed last year to send updated samples to WHO from affected birds, which are the sources of the outbreak. Affected countries had failed to send samples to WHO.


Australia's got the right idea now..

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ew vaccine centre plans for flu pandemic
It is hoped Australia will be better prepared for an influenza pandemic after a new vaccine centre opens in Melbourne today.

The CSL vaccine manufacturing facility in Parkville cost $33 million and is the largest of its kind in the Southern Hemisphere.

CSL's Dr Rachel David says the centre grew from concerns about Australia's readiness for an international flu outbreak.

"There is a threat that a new flu pandemic could arise worldwide, that is a new strain of flu for which people by and large aren't immune," he said.

"That would mean we would need to very quickly produce a large number of doses to vaccinate basically everyone in the whole country and we wanted to make sure we were prepared for that."

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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 13 May 2005, 02:32:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilsNotWell', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ong Kong Update
The West will be left in the dust.
The failure of WHO, CDC, the western governments and health departments to do anything more than to think about sanitation, transportation, and power, and for health care officials to look at "Oh my!" outcomes as they watch their staffs become overwhelmed and rapidly infected in every simulation of a bird flu outbreak


*cringe* Bad time to be a doctor. :(
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Unread postby skiwi » Fri 13 May 2005, 07:38:07

[url=http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15279642%255E1702,00.html]Bird flu found in Javanese pigs
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BIRD flu has infected pigs in Indonesia, raising fears of a wider outbreak in the world's fourth-most populous country and South-East Asia's biggest economy, the Agriculture Ministry said today.

The ministry conducted tests after scientists reported that pigs in several farms on the main island of Java were infected....
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We have tried with our first creatures but we could not make them venerate us.
So let us try to make obedient respectful beings who shall
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 17:56:54

Are you starting to get the picture yet?

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This was 2003. Has the beast has been unleashed?
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 18:09:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')lu fear spurs vaccine race
Kate Jones, medical reporter
14may05

SCIENTISTS are preparing for an influenza pandemic which experts say could hit at any time.

Australia is leading the world in developing a stockpile of flu vaccines, but it's still not enough.
The Melbourne-based deputy director of a World Health Organisation research centre, Alan Hampson, said there was a real risk of avian, or bird flu, mutating after coming into contact with human flu.

He said the avian flu had a high mortality rate with birds but had killed just 50 people.

Avian flu changed by human flu could infect and kill thousands of people around the world, Mr Hampson warned.

"Remember SARS? It would be nothing compared to a flu pandemic," Mr Hampson said.

"It has the potential to kill a lot of people.

"Australia has sufficient vaccine, but not enough to prevent a pandemic, not enough to protect Australians -- but just enough to give us some breathing space."

Despite this, Australian Medical Association state president Dr Sam Lees said people should not panic.

"Sooner or later there will be a pandemic of a very virulent and severe form of influenza, but Australia has an advantage in that we have developed vaccines to help protect us," Dr Lees said.

Race for Vaccine


The world may be woefully unprepared...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N'). Korea limits int'l phone services after bird flu outbreak
SEOUL, May 13 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has placed a block on foreign trade organizations and companies operating there from making international phone calls after news of a recent bird flu outbreak in the communist state spread rapidly to the outside world, presumably through phone lines, a source familiar with the North said Friday.

"I understand the North took such measures as it holds international phone services responsible for the disclosure in less than a month of the bird flu outbreak at large poultry facilities in Pyongyang in February to the outside world," the source said on condition of anonymity.

N. Korea Suspens Intl Calls


Oh yeah. Like THAT'S going to help. Earth to Kim Jong Il! Bird Flu is NOT spread by telephone...:)
Oh, I see what you mean...what a crappy editor.
Ignorance is bliss. If you haven't heard about it, it must NOT be true..
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 18:36:22

WTF is going on right now?!?!

-outbreaks of mumps in England
-outbreaks of meningitus in India
-outbreaks of polio/resurgence of previously eradicated areas
-Marburg
-Ebola
-SARS
-scabies
-rubella
-cholera
-hepatitus
-foot and mouth
-BSE or CJD ('Mad Cow' or Cretzfeld-Jakob Disease)
-bird flu changing on many fronts
-avian flu showing up in many areas, in many different creatures: ducks, tigers, horses, swine, dogs, in many different creatures
-'accidental' release of H2N2

Just google 'outbreak'...

On a lot of the boards I've seen, many are saying THIS IS NOT NORMAL...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m starting to feel the human population has been doused in gasoline and there are gleeful 2 years olds playing with matches stratigically placed throughout the world (Vietnam, Indonesia, Inda, US East Coast, Korea, and so on and so on).

They may not get a flame the first hundred times, but eventually there will be a spark. Then KA-BOOM!



Bird Flu Infecting Domestic Dogs in the United States?
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FUK MI! Is it time to say like the little girl in Poltergeist:

"THEY'RE HE-RE!"?!!?


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ace flu may kill your pet: CDC probes possible link to humans

Race flu may kill your pet: CDC probes possible link to humans
By Scott Van Voorhis
Friday, May 13, 2005 - Updated: 08:00 AM EST

The devastating and shadowy malady that is claiming the lives of greyhounds at Revere's Wonderland racetrack may have even deadlier ambitions: lovable Fido and perhaps even his master.

The federal government's top scientists are exploring whether a deadly dog flu that has ripped through greyhound tracks across the country - and is suspected in Massachusetts - could leap to humans. The strain of canine influenza has already popped up in other dogs in animal shelters aroundthe country.

``Obviously, there is nothing to stop it from going from greyhounds to terriers or shepherds,'' said Ruben Donis, chief of the molecular genetics section of the influenza branch of the federal Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta.

``Humans, we can't say anything at this point,'' Donis said.

Race flu may kill your pet: CDC probes possible link to humans


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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 18:40:08

This is from the Boston Herald today:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Z')erbel said even casual human contact with the infected dogs could spread the killer illness beyond the hot zone.

``Just down the street, we have a pet store, many animal hospitals,'' Zerbel said. ``We want to assume it could be easily spread.''

As vets battle the epidemic, state officials are now scrambling to nail down exactly what is killing the dogs - and to prove whether it is linked to the flu-like killer that has affected an estimated 10,000 dogs nationwide. These include a few hundred domestic dogs as well.

This summer, the CDC also plans to begin testing the blood of track workers in other states - the first step in determining whether the canine flu may have already leaped to humans.

A sliver of good news: The mystery dog flu appears not to be the kind of killer that some scientists have seen in the so-called ``avian influenza'' - a canine malady that has infected and killed people in Asia.

Donis said the illness sweeping through greyhound populations appears to be milder.

That said, flu, in the period right after it jumps to a new species, can prove unpredictably virulent. The 1918 influenza epidemic eventually lost its killer status, but not before millions died in the few years after its outbreak, Donis said.
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 13 May 2005, 18:44:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Revere's Wonderland dog track has been struck by the deadly contagion.

Two more greyhounds died there Wednesday, bringing the death toll to 18 in roughly a week. In Rhode Island, 13 dogs have died at Lincoln Park.

As vets battle the epidemic, state officials are now scrambling to nail down exactly what is killing the dogs - and to prove whether it is linked to the flu-like killer that has affected an estimated 10,000 dogs nationwide. These include a few hundred domestic dogs as well. <<

The flu-like killer sounds remarkably like the avian influenza isolated from a fatal infection of a greyhound. That isolate, A/canine/Florida/43/04(H3N8), was 96-99% homologous in all 8 genes to recent H3N8 equine isolates in the United Sates.

The spread of the virus to a few hundred domestic dogs would be cause for concern. Although H3N8 is an avian virus, it causes equine influenza. Last year was the first reported isolation from dogs, but fatal greyhound outbreaks have been reported in Florida earlier this season. Now the fatal infections have spread nationwide. The largest number of fatal cases appears to be in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
Although H3N8 has not been reported in humans, testing of antibodies in track workers is scheduled for this summer. H3 serotypes are in human influenza such as H3N2, which was also very prevalent in New England this season. Spread of H3N8 among domestic dogs could increase exposure of humans to H3N8, which could lead to recombination and emergence of new strains.

In Florida, the sudden death of a12 year-old Wesley Chapel girl was never linked to the petting zoo cases and a cause of death was not reported. Details of a Wisconsin case were also not reported. Further testing for H3N8 antibodies may be useful.

Domestic Dog Flu Spreading US
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Unread postby blackaddr » Fri 13 May 2005, 23:27:37

nice stuff oilisnotwell, keep at it :)
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Sat 14 May 2005, 16:04:29

The bird flu in pigs story has been picked up by Fox News after the AP wire story...

Bird Flu Jumps to Pigs

From what I've read, bird flu in pigs is about the WORST place for it to be...The danger is if bird flu, if it hasn't already, recombine with human flu types, and death shall stalk us.

To remind everyone, humans have no immunity to H5N1 genotypes...

The news on this is slowly becoming a deluge. I cannot keep up. I will post what I can, but....

The prior links I provided are a good resource if you want to keep up on your own...
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')udden Onset of Fatal H3N8 in Greyhounds in Northeast

Recombinomics Commentary
May 14, 2005

>> "In no way was it negligence," she said. "You can have a dog looking absolutely fine and four hours later it's on death's door." <<

The sudden onset of the fatal infection parallels bird flu infections by H5N1 in chickens in Vietnam, and H1N1 in pandemic influenza in 1918. In Vietnam, entire flocks of chickens can appear to be fine in the morning and dead by noon with blood oozing from every orifice. Similarly, anecdotal reports on the 1918 pandemic included people who sat down to play bridge and literally fell over dead at the table, or commuters who died while taking a subway ride.

The large number of greyhound deaths this season is without precedence, suggesting the H3N8 isolates from last season have changed, particularly in the northeast. There was a late surge of human influenza cases in the northeast due to California/7 H3N2, which swept across the United States in February and March. Immunizations against the Fujian-like strain (Wyoming/3) provided reduced levels of protection. The H3N2 resurgence was accompanied by clusters of meningitis deaths of students.

Since both H3N8 and H3N2 isolates have antigenically similar hemagglutinin surface proteins, recombination or reassortment is possible. Additional sequence data on last season's H3N8 and isolates from Florida and the northeast would be useful.


Flu in US Dogs

Equine (Horse) Flu (H3), jumps to dogs...many dog tracks closing...

Meningitus is a known secondary infection of flu, by the way...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')atal H3N8 Infections Widespread in Greyhounds in Florida

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May 14, 2005

>> According to the Florida Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering, the respiratory illness has seven out the state's 18 dog tracks under full quarantine. That includes the Daytona Beach Kennel Club.....

Veterinary researchers at the University of Florida announced last month that this new respiratory illness is the first scientific report of the equine influenza virus jumping from horses to another species. It's the likely cause of death to eight racing greyhounds from Jacksonville who died in January, a University of Florida spokeswoman said last month. <<

The jump of H3N8 was reported last year when A/canine/Florida/43/04(H3N8) was isolated and sequenced in a collaborative effort between researchers at the University of Florida and the CDC in Atlanta. The isolate, from a fatal infection of a greyhound in Florida, was 96-99% homologous to equine influenza in all 8 genes. Last season the infections were largely limited to Florida, but now infections are nationwide. Tracks in the northeast near Boston are particular hard hit with over 30 fatal infections at two tracks.

Reports of infections in companion dogs would be a concern because the virus is readily transmitted from dog to dog. H3N8 has the same hemagglutinin serotype as the common human H3N2 influenza.
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Tue 17 May 2005, 00:48:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://www.newsgd.com/culture/peopleandlife/200505170037.htm]Vietnam reports 2 more bird flu patients[/url]

Latest Updated by 2005-05-17 11:22:48
Two men from Vietnam's northern region have fallen victim of bird flu virus strain H5N1, local newspaper Vietnam News on Tuesday (May 17th) quoted a doctor at the Institute of Tropical Diseases as saying.

A 52-year-old man from Vinh Phuc province and a 58-year-old man from Thanh Hoa province were admitted to the Hanoi-based institute last Thursday and Friday, respectively, with typical symptoms of bird flu infection, said doctor Nguyen Hoang Ha. Health conditions of the two men are stable, he noted.

The man from Vinh Phuc named Cao The Hai developed the symptoms after eating dead chickens. Local health authorities have yet to confirm the two latest human cases of bird flu infection.

On May 11, Vietnam's Preventive Medicine Department said the country had detected 49 infection cases since December 2004, raising the total to 76 since bird flu first hit it in December 2003. Of the cases, 37 have been fatal.


The prevalence of the virus seems to be ubitiquous in the region.

But in another case of strange grammar:"The man from Vinh Phuc named Cao The Hai developed the symptoms after eating dead chickens" Ah, thanks for the distinction. Apparently there can be some confusion with eating LIVE chickens...


And in other news:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/30824/story.htm]Indonesia Tests More Pigs for Bird Flu Virus[/url]

"The pigs are not showing signs of being unhealthy, and thus we can't say they're infected. So far, three (pigs in West Java) are positive carrying the strain," she told Reuters.
She declined to give details of the location where the positive tests were made or elaborate on the kinds of measures the government was taking, saying she feared public panic.

But she said authorities were taking necessary biosecurity and surveillance measures to keep the situation under control
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Tue 17 May 2005, 00:58:37

I apologize for quoting this in full, but it's an important statement in terms of US policy on H5N1:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')6 May 2005

U.S. Health Secretary Calls Bird Flu Outbreak Urgent Challenge
Leavitt focuses on potential pandemic at meeting of world health leaders


The Asian bird flu outbreak and the possibility that it could lead to a global flu pandemic among humans are issues of top concern in Geneva, where health leaders from almost 200 nations are gathered for the World Health Assembly.

“Pandemic flu is an urgent health challenge, and preparedness is the best defense,” said U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt May 16. “Transparency, strong surveillance and communication are essential components of our response to this threat.”

Leavitt said the United States has heightened its preparedness for a flu pandemic in recent years with increased spending on development of new vaccines and the creation of stockpiles of drugs and vaccines.

Leavitt delivered remarks at a ministerial meeting focused specifically on bird flu on the sidelines of the assembly, the annual gathering of member nations of the World Health Organization. He brought representatives from the affected nations and donor countries together to discuss their ongoing efforts to contain an epidemic, which has killed hundreds of millions of birds.

About 90 humans have been infected with the H5N1 virus in Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand; 52 of them have died. Health officials fear that a widespread outbreak in humans could set in motion a global flu pandemic.

Further information on bird flu and the international health campaign to prevent it is available on World Health Organization’s Web site. Further information is also available on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Web site and at http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/global_issues/bird_flu.html.

Following is the text of Leavitt’s remarks:

(begin text)

Note: At the World Health Assembly in Geneva, the Honorable Mike Leavitt, the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, convened a ministerial meeting on Avian Influenza. He invited the Health Ministers and Heads of Delegation from both affected countries and donor countries. His opening remarks follow.

Opening remarks of the Honorable Mike Leavitt,
U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services
MINISTERIAL MEETING ON AVIAN INLFUENZA
MAY 16, 2005
Geneva


Fellow Ministers and Heads of Delegations, invited guests, thank you for coming.

My goal in calling you together is to foster some frank dialogue on the current situation regarding highly pathogenic avian influenza. I want to discuss what we in the United States and other partner countries can do to assist people in affected countries to combat that virus in a sustainable way, and to understand how, by working together, we can be better prepared for an influenza pandemic.

I am acutely aware of the disaster that a pandemic could cause. Many of us are particularly worried about H5N1 avian influenza virus, and we’re right to worry. It has infected at least 89 human beings and killed more than half. There is a chance that this virus could cause the next pandemic.

Pandemic flu is an urgent health challenge, and preparedness is the best defense. Transparency, strong surveillance, and communication are essential components of our response to this threat.

I’ve made preparedness one of my top priorities, and I get briefed daily. President Bush also understands the gravity of our situation. The United States Government has made significant progress on pandemic influenza since he took office. We have increased spending on influenza tenfold over the past five years. We have added flu vaccine and flu drugs to our national stockpile and made influenza part of regular public health discussions.

As part of our commitment, I am pleased to report that our National Institutes of Health have recently initiated clinical trials of a vaccine specifically designed against the H5N1 strain that is circulating in Asia. We have also gone ahead and produced two million doses of this vaccine in bulk.

Since we do not know where or when a pandemic may originate, we have strengthened and expanded our surveillance network across the globe, but especially in East and Southeast Asia, where HHS field experts are working with local researchers, clinicians, and governments. We are also in frequent contact with the W-H-O Secretariat and its regional offices in Manila and New Delhi.

We share the increasing concern about human cases of avian influenza. We reiterate our support to the affected countries in Southeast Asia. We want to work with the W-H-O, the affected countries, and our partner countries around the room. Your leadership is essential, and your contributions have been and remain significant.

If a flu pandemic starts, public health officials need to be able to react right away across borders—regardless of the relationships among governments—to bring treatment to the victims and protect others from infection.

To maximize our preparation, we need to cooperate and communicate, regularly and without surprises. We need to identify the short- and longer-term barriers to sustainable action on avian influenza. Developed countries need to know where affected countries need the most assistance to address the control and treatment of this virus. We want to work with you.

There are a few concrete steps we can take together now to improve preparedness for an influenza pandemic. First, I urge you all to have your experts attend the technical meeting tomorrow, hosted by my Government and co-chaired with us by the Kingdom of Thailand and the W-H-O Secretariat. The W-H-O will also have a technical briefing on Influenza on Wednesday afternoon. I urge you to support the W-H-A resolution on pandemic influenza preparedness and response that we and a number of other countries introduced at the Executive Board. It provides a good blueprint for action.

The more we prepare now, the more lives we will save in the event of a pandemic

There is a time in the life of every problem when it is big enough to see and small enough to solve. For flu preparedness, that time is now.

(end text)

(Distributed by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)



Ok, so then who gets the 2 million doses if the virus arrives and spreads before more can be made? Let's see....the WH and staff. check. Congress and staff. check. Top military personnel. check. Those with connections to the top of the power structure. Check. Maybe just the neocons and their specially appointed minions and chosen ones? Check?
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3350900&nav=0RaPZulV]Health Alert: Bird flu vaccine[/url]

(National) May 16, 2005 - Heather Graham is taking part in the new bird flu vaccine study. She doesn't know if she received the real vaccine or a placebo. "It's very possible that I could develop an immunity to it," she explains, "And it's very possible that I won't." A sample of her blood will show if, and when, she develops antibodies to fight the flu.
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The experimental vaccine is made in the US and grown in eggs like human flu vaccines. It contains H5N1, the current lethal strain of bird flu from a patient in Vietnam.
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The vaccine is being tested at the University of Maryland Medical Center and two other sites. Researchers could know if the vaccine is effective by next February.


[Coughs, gags, spits out coffee....]

Next February, hmm?
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Unread postby OilsNotWell » Tue 17 May 2005, 01:42:11

Various quotes:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')ntil last year NO strain of influenza was known to affect canines - or felines for that matter. Both changes represent a HUGELY significant jump in the ability of influenza to jump species.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ikala, novel influenza flare ups SEEM to me to be occurring at an unprecedented rate & across quite different parts of the world. Furthermore, we're seeing it among many different subtypes of flu. The orthodoxy has always stated that flu is 'genetically stable' in migrating waterfowl, (thus presumably, not likely to cause frequent problems in poultry either), but we're sure not seeing that. These same birds are dying, other wild birds are now being infected & asymptomatic ducks are shedding HUGE amounts of virus - something new, I think.

As bad as it is, (certainly to farmers & others in any form of animal industry), every one of these stories should be stressing the fact that the OPPORTUNITY for recombination & spread to even more species increases with each new occurence. Dr. Niman preaches that loudly & clearly but to my dismay, the WHO & other agencies almost seem to mention it as an afterthought - blithering idiots. It's a major concern & this concern is increasing almost daily.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '*')**UNEXPLAINED DEATHS, CANINES - USA (MULTISTATE)

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Date: 14 May 2005
From: A-Lan Banks <A-Lan.Banks@thomson.com>
Source: Newsweek, MSNBC News, 13 May 2005 [edited]
<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7832310/>

A mysterious respiratory disease is sweeping greyhound tracks across the
country, killing dozens of dogs and forcing owners to halt racing as researchers hunt for a vaccine to control the outbreak.

Wonderland Greyhound Park, in this blue-collar city north of Boston, has been the hardest hit. Since May 4, 16 of its dogs have died from the influenza-like illness, and the track has suspended racing indefinitely and quarantined its 1200 greyhounds.

Racetracks in Colorado, Iowa, and Rhode Island have also reported greyhound
deaths over the past month, while other states are seeing a rash of nonfatal cases, according to Massachusetts officials. "The reason this is happening is because greyhounds travel from track to track, and they may be incubating the illness without someone knowing," Zerbel said. Necropsies on 2 of the greyhounds at Wonderland found the dogs died of pneumonia, a complication that can be caused by infection by either bacteria or a virus.
...
At Dairyland Greyhound Park in Kenosha, Wisconsin, roughly 1/4 of the track's greyhounds have become ill in recent weeks, though none has died, said Scott Larrivee, a spokesman for state regulators. Dairyland suspended racing this week.

Several greyhounds have died at Bluffs Run racetrack in Council Bluffs, Iowa, according to Sally Prickett, a state veterinarian. She is awaiting lab results.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]H3N8 was isolated from one of the dead Greyhounds last season in Florida. I think there are more isolates this year. Some dogs went from relatively to healthy to near death in 4 hours.

Bacteria infections are secondaries of flu. Little reason to think this was not flu (positives win over negatives).
-Dr. Niman


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Unread postby erl » Wed 18 May 2005, 00:32:32

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')But in another case of strange grammar:"The man from Vinh Phuc named Cao The Hai developed the symptoms after eating dead chickens" Ah, thanks for the distinction. Apparently there can be some confusion with eating LIVE chickens...


I wonder if the use of the word "dead" to describe the chicken was meant to indicate the men ate chickens that had died in some way (disease) rather than chickens that were slaughtered.

I don't know all that much about Vietnamese practices, but is it possible that these men raised chickens and some died and then rather than wasting the carcass they just decided to put it into a pot?

Just a thought.
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Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Wed 18 May 2005, 01:20:50

Either that or there were parts of the chicken that were raw when they consumed them (some kind of delicacy)
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