by TWilliam » Fri 02 Apr 2010, 00:31:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')ho has stopped you from changing the way you live, TWilliam?
Every greedy
playground bully bureaucrat who seeks to extort a permit/license/use fee from me any time I wish to make use of what's mine as I see fit, that's who.
"It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
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by Nefarious » Fri 02 Apr 2010, 01:46:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')ho has stopped you from changing the way you live, TWilliam?
Every greedy
playground bully bureaucrat who seeks to extort a permit/license/use fee from me any time I wish to make use of what's mine as I see fit, that's who.
Have to agree to that.
My mother had an old two car garage that was in a decrepit state, so one day I set to work on it with a pair of leather gloves and a sledge hammer. I took it all the way down to the slab and was loading the old timber on a trailer to haul away when a county building inspector came by(I think that's what he was anyway, not sure on the title) and he wanted to see my demolition permit!
WTF!! I have to get a permit to tear a garage down on private property by hand!!
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by TWilliam » Fri 02 Apr 2010, 02:31:14
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', 'M')y mother had an old two car garage that was in a decrepit state, so one day I set to work on it with a pair of leather gloves and a sledge hammer. I took it all the way down to the slab and was loading the old timber on a trailer to haul away when a county building inspector came by(I think that's what he was anyway, not sure on the title) and he wanted to see my demolition permit!
WTF!! I have to get a permit to tear a garage down on private property by hand!!
And you can be 99% certain that if some neighbor had complained about the 'eyesore', some 'official' would have been there in short order
compelling someone to 'deal with it'. After paying the requisite fees of course...
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by careinke » Fri 02 Apr 2010, 16:12:42
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')What did they prevent you from doing?
Long Story, but basically they have been sitting on my application to plant geoducks, on two acres of our tide flats, for over five years. Interestingly enough, the family bought the tide lands from the state about 80 years ago in a program to encourage aquaculture.
It would have been a great deal for us. It would more than pay for the property taxes, and in the event of a fast crash, we would have thousands of pounds of delicious protein, that can stay in the mud for hundreds of years ready to harvest on any low tide.
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by careinke » Fri 02 Apr 2010, 16:28:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I might get so darn mad I would come up with another idea.
Why do you think I haven't?
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by TWilliam » Sat 03 Apr 2010, 00:58:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')So yes, in effect, they were prevented from doing something different.
Yep, when people want to do something illegal like squat on land they don't own, in a notorious fashion ("flouncing") they might be prevented from doing what they want.
Being prevented from doing whatever you want is not being prevented from changing. Use a little imagination here, folks. Honestly.
You're missing the larger point here. Perhaps
Dale Allen Pfeiffer can make it a little clearer:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he fate of [South Central Community] Farm, taken in conjunction with the fate of New Orleans' poorer residents, demonstrates that the poor will not be cared for. Instead they will be preyed upon and will suffer the brunt of the coming collapse. In truth, the working class, and in particular the lower working class, is the alternative energy source the elite intend to use to replace their consumption of fossil fuels. And this is the system they are quietly working to set in place.
I have said elsewhere (Mountain Sentinel Vol. 1, No. 4) that
we must recognize that relocalization is a radical idea. It is radical because it seeks to replace the dominant system with one that is more healthy and equitable for all.
And whenever a radical movement rises to threaten the dominant system, it must fight for its survival or be crushed ruthlessly.So far, relocalization has posed no threat to the dominant system. Where it is happening at all, it is marginalized. Most people are not even aware of it, and it holds little appeal to them. They prefer to shop at Walmart, drive their SUVs and yak on their cell phones.
But when relocalization efforts do become visible, and when society has collapsed to the point that relocalization begins to appeal to the masses, then you can be certain that government and corporations will do their best to stamp it out. Either that or subvert it so that it is made profitable to them.
Tho' in this instance he's speaking specifically of relocalization, what he says is applicable to any efforts to 'do something different' that are perceived as being a threat to the established system. Sooner or later someone is going to show up who'll do their damnedest to stop it.
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by eXpat » Fri 08 Oct 2010, 21:19:00
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'N')ot that I'd ever do anything to be a target of an investigation, but I'd have destroyed it or sold it. You attach a device to my car it becomes mine if I find it. Maybe I put it in a UPS box and send it to Pakistan, or leave it on the ground next to an oil refinery?
That´s a good one, or attach it to a travelling gnome.
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by Dreamtwister » Sat 09 Oct 2010, 21:16:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'N')ot that I'd ever do anything to be a target of an investigation
These days, just visiting this forum could make you a target.
If I found one of those things on my car, it would find it's way into a containerload of scrap bound for China. Preferably while still functioning.
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I might get so darn mad I would come up with another idea.
