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I agree the questions aren't very nuanced but then again most politicians don't have more than 3 seconds to impress a voter either.




I'd say that's about right...

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
') Once we decide when life begins then I think everyone would agree no abortion except to save the life of the mother after the fetus has been declared a human. Right now a person can be charged with two murders when a pregnant lady is killed, yet a pregnant mother can, almost at will, kill the fetus with no legal consequences. We are not being consistent here.

I believe we all own our own bodies.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
') Once we decide when life begins then I think everyone would agree no abortion except to save the life of the mother after the fetus has been declared a human. Right now a person can be charged with two murders when a pregnant lady is killed, yet a pregnant mother can, almost at will, kill the fetus with no legal consequences. We are not being consistent here.

I believe we all own our own bodies.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'w')ho the hell is gonna care about abortion one way or the other?

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'w')ho the hell is gonna care about abortion one way or the other?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')In light of the very serious issues facing this country I couldn't care if abortion were available at every wal-mart in the country, or illegal punishable by death.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '
')In light of the very serious issues facing this country I couldn't care if abortion were available at every wal-mart in the country, or illegal punishable by death.

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Here is how this test of POers looked in 2005.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I') dount anyone took that quiz and came out in the middle. The questions did not have any nuance, and did not seem to have been written by anyone who designs tests.

[Pops]

This is good...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') ripped into each side as corrupt partisan hacks. I favor the NASCAR endorsement approach for Congress-critters: They should all have to wear on their suit coats the stickers of their “sponsors” and campaign funders — like any NASCAR team. Only instead of Penzoil and Target, the sponsor logos on their blazers would say AIG and CITI and ENRON and HUMANA....

I am not a Democrat, because I have no idea what their economic policies are; And I am not a Republican, because I know precisely what their economic policies are.

Indeed, the entire left/right debate is false, an artificial framework for analyzing policy. In my mind, the real debate is the corporatocracy versus the individual.

And right now, the individual is losing . . .

[Cid_Yama]

Actually it looks like this is pretty accurate. It's easy to tell who the right-wing authoritarians are on here without the test, but the test just confirms it.

Also it's interesting to note that authoritarians tend to see the left/right axis as most important and see their opposite numbers as authoritarians like themselves, whereas the libertarians tend to find the authoritarian/libertarian axis as more important, resisting authoritarians of all stripes.

I don't think authoritarians really comprehend the authoritarian/libertarian axis.

[careinke]

Ludi,

You are correct, I choose the wrong term using "Life", I should have used the word human. Am I correct that you believe a fetus is not a human until the fetus pops out of the mothers vagina? Do you think an abortion is acceptable while the mother is in labor? Just asking. Anyway, if you replace the word "life" with "human" (and correct the grammar), then I am consistent.

I am actually fine with the law as it is. My only problem is this disagreement is causing way to much turmoil and it would be nice if it was resolved once and for all. FAT CHANCE.

Perhaps we should use Shiara law and allow the parents the right to terminate their children up until they are adults? Sort of a post birth abortion. I know a lot of you will find this fact surprising, but it is true. I worked in Saudi for over 9 years and have asked several of my Saudi co-workers (Including Matawwa) if this was true. The response was always the same: "Oh Mr. Cliff, yes it is permitted, but who would do such a thing". Saudi culture is very tribal, and family, next to their religion, is the most important thing to them.

[Ludi]

My personal opinion about some fetus or other is irrelevant, unless that fetus happens to be in my body.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')Perhaps we should use Shiara law and allow the parents the right to terminate their children up until they are adults?

[careinke]

really believe what? that it is true, or I believe we should adopt it?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'r')eally believe what? that it is true, or I believe we should adopt it?

[careinke]

Dupe

[careinke]

Ludi,

OK, if the fetus was in your body, do you believe you have the right to abort it while you are in labor???

No I don't think we should adopt post birth abortion, although when I was raising my kids I was tempted at times (Just kidding).

[Sixstrings]

How did abortion get in this thread? Here's an idea: men just stay out of it. Let women vote on it, they have a uterus we don't.

[PrestonSturges]

It was Moses who laid the law about allowing parent to kill their children and to kill brides on their wedding day for not being virgins, so it applies to Christians also. And in fact the Christian Reconstructionists are up front about wanting to bring back stoning.