[Ludi]

Here is the Republican plan for what they will do if they regain the House:

Some of the points in the plan:

Permanently extend all the Bush tax cuts, including those on the wealthy.

Cancel all unspent stimulus money. As of today, about $258 billion of the $814 billion stimulus is unspent.

Repeal the Obama health care bill, replacing it with Republican proposals, including limits on malpractice lawsuits.

Block Obama's plan to move detainees at Guantanamo Bay to the United States.



The pledge draft: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... 222010.pdf

So I guess they aren't all that serious about the deficit, if they're going to extend the tax cuts....

[Plantagenet]

Stopping Obama from wasting the last 250 billion of his porkulus money seems like a good start to me.

That will cut Obama's budget deficit from ca. 1.3 to ca. 1.05 Trillion right there.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ere is the Republican plan for what they will do if they regain the House:

Some of the points in the plan:

Permanently extend all the Bush tax cuts, including those on the wealthy.

Cancel all unspent stimulus money. As of today, about $258 billion of the $814 billion stimulus is unspent.

Repeal the Obama health care bill, replacing it with Republican proposals, including limits on malpractice lawsuits.

Block Obama's plan to move detainees at Guantanamo Bay to the United States.



The pledge draft: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... 222010.pdf

So I guess they aren't all that serious about the deficit, if they're going to extend the tax cuts....

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', ' ')I think they may win Congress, and am pretty sure they'll win the next presidential election (my early guess would be Mitt Romney). Republicans will only make everything worse of course, so that by around 2014 the country will be in a terrible mess.

Gonna be a rocky ride folks, from the frying pan into the fire we go.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'A') lot of Democrats are saying they aren't going to vote, in order to punish the Democrats for not doing what they want.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', ' ')We need to just break into two countrys....and see who survives.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', 'T')he Republicans have shot themselves in the foot. Their right wing policies have failed miserably so the answer must be move further to the right. I will be amazed if a single tea party candidate is elected. We need to just break into two countrys, one left and one right and see who survives.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', 'I') am really not clear on who was which in 1860...please enlighten me...My impression is the north was Dems since they wanted to end slavery and give everyone a fair chance and the south was repubs since they wanted the rich slave owners to have the control and the ability to repress the masses...am I wrong...

[Oakley]

I don't think it really matters which wing of Plunder and Control Party has a majority, the Republicans or the Democrats.

If localization is so good for food production and living conditions, maybe localization of politics is the answer too. We probably are at the point where the complexity that comes from having one size fits all centralized government is bad, and the solution seems to me to be the dissolution of the federal government. It is bankrupt anyway. It is beyond control of ordinary citizens. It is corrupt and self serving.

There is too much division between red states and blue states for us to reach civil solutions so lets just divorce and go our separate ways.

[efarmer]

The Republicans represented business in the North and objected to slavery on several grounds including
moral and the fact that free labor was a disadvantage for businesses that had to pay wages and compete in areas of the nation that did not have slave labor. Lincoln was a Republican Moderate.

After Johnson signed the civil rights act in the 1960's the bastion of political racism in the American South was the very powerful Southern Democrats and they objected and defected to the Republican Party and led to a resurgence of Southern political clout for Republicans which brought Richard Nixon to power in 1969.

Sort of like a dog that decides to eat a toad, and finds that they foam at the mouth and have a hard time keeping him down later. I have often wondered if Lee Atwater and Karl Rove would have any place in the Republican party if Republicans had not decided to eat the Southern Democratic Toads so they could win the South.

Oakley, I do not believe the American people are as polarized as the media, corporate sponsors, and the Red and Blue teams like to pretend when they hold their pageants.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he parasite red states can't survive with massive infusions of cash from the blue states. Alaska elected palin and it takes in $5 in federal money for every $1 of taxes paid. Sounds like a bunch of socialist welfare types to me.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', 'I') am really not clear on who was which in 1860...please enlighten me...My impression is the north was Dems ... and the south was repubs...am I wrong...

[dinopello]

Wow, a 21 page plan ! That a big plan.

And, prominently on page 21 is the Republican's is the first and total mention of their pledge on energy...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]We will fight to increase access to domestic energy sources and oppose attempts to impose a national “cap and trade” energy tax.

[PrestonSturges]

Jon Stewart just spent a couple minutes on the GOP "Pledge" contrasting today's announcements with clips from the last 15 years, and the GOP promises no change whatsoever. The guy that you dumped 2 years ago shows up at your door saying "I haven't changed, and I'm still going to try to f*** your sister. So what's it going to be baby, I ain't got all day."

[Plantagenet]

The democrats just cancelled their scheduled vote to repeal the Bush tax cuts.



Looks like the "Pledge" caused the democrats to lose their nerve and cancel the vote......

[Tanada]

The GOP are fools, all they needed was a 1 line pledge "We will follow our oath to uphold, defend and protect the constitution and make sure the Federal Government complies with it."

21 pages is just a bunch of lawyers putting in phrases that they can use to weasel out of doing what they claim they are going to do to get elected.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '2')1 pages is just a bunch of lawyers putting in phrases that they can use to weasel out of doing what they claim they are going to do to get elected.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oakley', '
')There is too much division between red states and blue states for us to reach civil solutions so lets just divorce and go our separate ways.