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Re: Illegal Immigration Reform and Unions

Unread postby Ayoob » Mon 06 Sep 2010, 20:22:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'A') neighboring dairy pays a milker $30 per milking, twice a day, 6 days a week, and usually in the summer an additional 2-4 hours a day at somewhere around $10/hr. for misc. chores. In addition to the paycheck the milker gets a nice little 2 bedroom house, electricity and propane supplied and a freezer full of beef.

They really didn't want to hire an inexperienced "Mexican" (he's actually a Texan) but no "white" people answered the want ad they ran a couple of years ago. People my age would have jumped at that job when we were in our 20's - I have 2 brothers-in-law that milked and got minimum wage and a trailer 30 years ago.

That's just one instance but how many 30 year olds do you know who would pick lettuce - for any amount of money?

It's pretty silly to say mexicans are taking jobs away from the good ol boys down at the union hall. Those boys voted themselves right out of the market sometime back in the '70s and the jobs have been crossing the border in the other direction ever since.


$360 a week plus room and board? That doesn't sound too bad. I know a lot of people who don't have $1400/mo left over after rent and basic expenses. You could squirrel away a thou a month and go to school online.

I don't think your friend is advertising that job very well.
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Re: Illegal Immigration Reform and Unions

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 06 Sep 2010, 20:55:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '
')We can immediately create a hundred thousand new jobs by hiring a national security force who will go door to door and drag the illegals out into the street, load them on busses, and send them all home. Back where they belong.



Never mind violating all kinds of Constitutional rights. Who needs those anyway?



werent they invented for citizens?
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Re: Illegal Immigration Reform and Unions

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 07 Sep 2010, 00:23:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', ' ') It's pretty silly to say mexicans are taking jobs away from the good ol boys down at the union hall. Those boys voted themselves right out of the market sometime back in the '70s ....


The law of supply and demand applies to labor as well as commodities----If there weren't millions of illegal Mexicans willing to work off the books and for low pay in California etc., there would be a few more jobs for union workers like carpenters.

Sorry to hear the American union worker is extinct where you are----however, there are still good paying union jobs here in Alaska.
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Re: Illegal Immigration Reform and Unions

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Tue 07 Sep 2010, 04:38:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'W')hy the hell would anyone want MORE PEOPLE in their country in a situation of DECLINING RESOURCES?????

I cannot get it through my head. It makes NO SENSE.

We can immediately create a hundred thousand new jobs by hiring a national security force who will go door to door and drag the illegals out into the street, load them on busses, and send them all home. Back where they belong.

The US is not the dumping ground for every illiterate beggar in the world! That's a stupid idea, and it needs to be stomped to death in the street!
:lol: This is like the old saw about if the Chinese army marched past a review stand 10 abreast 24 hours a day, it would never end because there is enough new Chinese to make up for all who marched past.

As long as American employers hire illegals and avoid punishment by paying the politicians the bribes needed to ensure there is no way to properly verify work status for them ever to be found guilty, we can arrest all the illegals we want and business will never mind and illegals will never be reduced.

Does anyone realize what an immigration raid means for an employer? That means just that many partial paychecks that never need to be paid to the arrested and/or deported employees. There are employers who drop a dime on their own workers to make just such additional profits. When state police are in on the racket, we may see just such collusion between businessman and police become common place.

We will be free of illegals only when we jail employers, not the illegals. The illegals will stay home or go home on their own when there is no work to be had because they won't be hired.
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