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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby JJ » Tue 12 Jan 2010, 17:51:34

food.

its the new drug.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Revi » Tue 12 Jan 2010, 21:56:48

Calderon got another one today, so maybe the government has the upper hand. Teo in Tiajuana just got nabbed.

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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 14 Jan 2010, 11:42:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'm')aybe the government has the upper hand.


I wouldn't count on that. The fact of the matter is, the drug lords pay better than the military. There's more job security, too.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby eXpat » Sun 04 Apr 2010, 18:10:58

Wow, things must be pretty bad if the police is advising that!
Texas border towns fear violent spillover from Mexico
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')EL PASO – Texas law enforcement officials are bracing for a bloody weekend along the border, advising farmers to arm themselves as signs across northern Mexico point to a new escalation of violence after coordinated drug cartel attacks against the military this week.

In the northern Mexican states of Nuevo León and Tamaulipas, both bordering Texas, drug cartel gunmen used trucks and buses Tuesday to block approaches to military bases in Reynosa and Matamoros, apparently in an attempt to trap the troops inside. In all, gunmen attacked military targets in a half-dozen towns in the two states.

At least 18 suspected attackers were reported killed. One soldier was reported wounded.

The unease across Mexico has analysts and political leaders questioning the Mexican government's long-term strategy, with at least one leading expert saying the approach is flawed because some "government elements" unwittingly favor one cartel over the other.

The result has been a "feeding frenzy" of violence, said Phil Williams, an expert on global security who spoke this week at Tarleton State University in Stephenville, southwest of Fort Worth.

Across West Texas, worries abound of possible Easter weekend massacres in tiny Mexican communities butting up against Texas. In Hudspeth County, near El Paso, Chief Deputy Mike Doyal said Thursday that his "deputies are on high alert, 24-7," for any sign of "a spillover of violence."

The alerts were prompted by street banners and online messages from alleged members of the Sinaloa cartel warning residents of Mexican towns to leave by Easter Sunday or face death and burned homes.

The Sinaloa cartel is battling members of the Juárez cartel for control of distribution routes into Texas. Cartels are also known to use the banners and online messages to spread fear and intimidate residents without following through on threats.

In recent days, according to residents with relatives on the Mexican side of the border, at least six homes and businesses have been burned. Hundreds of residents reportedly have either fled to nearby Ciudad Juárez or sought refuge with relatives in Texas.

Doyal said tensions over the past few weeks have reached a "boiling point."
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Earlier in the week, the Sheriff's Department held a community meeting in which authorities advised residents, "If you're out on the fields, arm yourself," Doyal said.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/040210dnintmexicoattacks.1b8b36a.html
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby jbrovont » Tue 06 Apr 2010, 00:11:17

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')AT least 19 people were killed in drug-related violence in northern Mexico at the weekend, including a clash with soldiers at the border with the United States, police and officials said.


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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 19 Jul 2010, 19:09:33

Some news of note today:

Christian Science Monitor

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Mexico birthday party massacre bears resemblance to Juarez killings

Gunmen killed at least 17 people Sunday in the city of Torreon. The Mexico birthday party massacre reminiscent of the killing of teens at a party in Cuidad Juarez in February. Has narco-terrorism arrived in Mexico?


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas ... z-killings

MSNBC

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National Guard to head to border states Aug. 1
1,200 troops in Southwest to crack down on drugs, illegal immigrants



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38310914/ns ... -security/
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 20 Jul 2010, 20:08:45

Update:

So far no Mexican Zombie Hordes here, about 150 miles from the border.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Ibon » Tue 20 Jul 2010, 20:19:50

I haven't seen any Mexican zombie hordes either down here in the cloud forest. Just howler monkeys.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby americandream » Tue 20 Jul 2010, 20:42:25

Wat!! No slavering hordes of brown folks intent on running the gauntlet 'cos they hate our white freedoms!! How dare you post such lies, Sir!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') haven't seen any Mexican zombie hordes either down here in the cloud forest. Just howler monkeys.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 23 Jul 2010, 20:43:54

I don't know where the "zombie hoards" comment came from.

I was just noting that there seems to be gathering unrest. A couple of weeks ago NPR did a report that basically said Caldaron's war on drugs is really in support of the major cartel trying to wipe out the smaller cartels.

My thought is that we may, just may, end up with a failed state on our Southern border.

Someday we may have zombie hoards, but they will be call "refugees" and we will pity them.

Someday, just someday, we may have to redeploy our Afghanistan troups to Mexico to reestablish law and order.

Maybe, just maybe.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Revi » Sat 24 Jul 2010, 12:20:20

Pobre Mexico, tan lejos de dios, pero tan cerca a Los Estados Unidos.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 24 Jul 2010, 18:12:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')omeday we may have zombie hoards, but they will be call "refugees" and we will pity them.


Really? When will the pitying start? There are already economic refugees from Mexico (they are called "illegal immigrants") and I have seen very little to no pity toward them expressed on this messageboard. :|
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 26 Jul 2010, 18:33:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')omeday we may have zombie hoards, but they will be call "refugees" and we will pity them.


Really? When will the pitying start? There are already economic refugees from Mexico (they are called "illegal immigrants") and I have seen very little to no pity toward them expressed on this messageboard. :|


OK, you may well be right. If that is the only point of disagreement then it is really no point at all.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 29 Jul 2010, 21:56:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')exican drug gunmen demand media run clips

Jul 29, 7:46 PM (ET)

By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ

MEXICO CITY (AP) - Gunmen who abducted four journalists in northern Mexico are demanding their media outlets broadcast videos apparently taped by a drug cartel that accuse officials of favoring a rival gang.

Drug gangs often kill, threaten or beat journalists to intimidate them and stop them from covering drug related stories but kidnapping them to force newspapers and television stations to publish their messages is a never before seen tactic.


http://apnews.excite.com/article/201007 ... 15MO2.html
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Newfie » Wed 18 Aug 2010, 22:03:45

Mexican mayor found dead 3 days after kidnapping


Aug 18, 7:09 PM (ET)

By MARK WALSH

MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) - The kidnapped mayor of a northern Mexican town was found dead Wednesday, extending a rash of deadly attacks on political figures in an area besieged by drug gang battles.

Santiago Mayor Edelmiro Cavazos' body was found near a waterfall outside his town, a popular weekend getaway for residents of the industrial city of Monterrey, said Nuevo Leon state attorney general Alejandro Garza y Garza.

Police have not determined a motive, but the assassination bore the hallmarks of drug cartels waging vicious turf battles in northeastern Mexico: Cavazos' hands were bound and his head was wrapped in tape.

Garza y Garza suggested it was a drug gang hit, saying Cavazos participated in state security meetings and was "showing his face in the fight against organized crime."

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However, Cavazos had not made any dramatic security decisions since taking office in November 2009, said Jorge Santiago Flores, the local president of the mayor's National Action Party. He said it remains a mystery why anyone would want to kill Cavazos.

"He was a very kind person. He was a man who worked a lot in the community and always helped those in need, donating medicine and helping people who asked," Flores said.

Gov. Rodrigo Medina appealed to the federal government to send reinforcements to the state and in a full-page newspaper ad Wednesday, Nuevo Leon business leaders called on authorities to act together to reduce insecurity in the region.

The ad by the CAINTRA chamber of commerce called for three army divisions and a division of the marines to be sent to the state.

Cavazos, 38, was kidnapped from his home Sunday night by 15 armed men wearing uniforms from a defunct federal police force, a tactic frequently used by Mexico's drug gangs.

Garza y Garza said the gunmen arrived in seven vehicles with police patrol lights. When Cavazos and his security guard went to see what was going on, the assailants forced them into the cars.

The security guard was driven around for about 15 minutes and released unharmed by the side of a road, Garza y Garza said. The guard then reported the kidnapping to police.

President Felipe Calderon, who belongs to the National Action Party sent his interior secretary, Francisco Blake Mora, to Nuevo Leon for a security meeting with the state government.

Nuevo Leon Gov. Rodrigo Medina said he would press for more federal soldiers and police in the state.

The region been besieged by drug gang fighting, including a new war between the Gulf cartel and its former ally, the Zetas gang of hit men.

Mexico's drug gang violence has surged since Calderon intensified the fight against traffickers in late 2006, deploying thousands of troops and federal police to root out cartels from their strongholds.

More than 28,000 people have since been killed in the country's drug war. The government says most are victims of cartel infighting. But assassinations of police, government officials and politicians have also increased.

In June, gunmen ambushed and killed the leading gubernatorial candidate for Tamaulipas state, which neighbors Nuevo Leon, a week before the elections. A mayoral candidate in Tamaulipas was killed in May.

A total of 191 soldiers have been killed fighting drug gangs between December 2006 and Aug. 1, 2010, according to a list of names on a wall of a Defense Department anti-narcotics museum. Reporters saw the list Wednesday during a tour of the museum - the first time the government has made the number public. Forty-three of the soldiers killed were officers.

The list also includes 503 military personnel killed in thirty years between 2006 and 1976, when the army formally started taking part in anti-drug efforts.

Last week, the government said 2,076 police have been killed since December 2006.

The army also allowed journalists to tour the armed forces "narco" museum, in which artifacts seized from drug traffickers are displayed. They include a gold-plated, diamond-encrusted cellular telephone that allegedly belonged to Zetas drug gang member Daniel Perez Rojas, currently imprisoned in Guatemala. A saddle embroidered with the words "The King," the army said belonged to deceased Sinaloa cartel leader Ignacio "Nacho" Coronel is also on display.
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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 02 Sep 2010, 00:43:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'M')y thought is that we may, just may, end up with a failed state on our Southern border.


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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Oakley » Thu 02 Sep 2010, 00:56:40

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My thought is that we may, just may, end up with a failed state on our Southern border.


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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Thu 02 Sep 2010, 09:19:13

Hezbollah's presence in Mexico

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n indictment was handed down Aug. 30 by the Southern District Court of New York that shows a connection between Hezbollah - the proxy army of Iran and a designated terrorist organization - and the drug cartels that violently plague the U.S.-Mexico border.

In short, a well-known international arms dealer was trying to orchestrate an arms-for-drugs deal in which cocaine from FARC - the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, which works with Mexican drug cartels to take cocaine into America - would be traded for thousands of weapons housed by a Hezbollah operative in Mexico.

This most recent case brings up several questions: Why would a member of Hezbollah be in Mexico? Why would Hezbollah need thousands of weapons in Mexico?


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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

Unread postby Revi » Thu 02 Sep 2010, 21:18:10

Mexico is having some real problems.

So is the US for that matter.

I have a friend who owns a house near Merida, and he just came back from there. He had a great time, and only got ripped off once.

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Re: Mexico collapse watch thread

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