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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 14:22:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')But when I hear you racists call blacks dumb, I have to say "huh?"



Can't really dispute a fact can you? Sorry that Mother Nature didnt bend over for a 100 000 years so your liberastic feelings wouldnt get hurt now.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Ibon » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 16:38:33

Mongrelization = hybrid vigor.
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Does it happen in humans? Here are some links. There are conflicting opinions here and of course as in all studies that look into genetic differences within the human genome there is controversy.

http://www.neoteny.org/2009/08/04/hybrid-vigor/
http://www.bookrags.com/research/hetero ... ge-gen-02/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/060904_interracial.htm



Tiger Woods, Barak Obama, Brazilian women.

Racialicious.
http://www.racialicious.com/2010/06/09/ ... of-beauty/


Here is a book for those wanting to read further

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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby americandream » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 16:57:17

Strange you should talk about Iceland pretorian. Its heavily mongrelised with a large mix of Greenland Inuit, Irish celt and Nordic. I used to stop over back in the days when I worked the Orkney fishing boats. Quite a pleasantly cosmopolitan place.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 17:44:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'M')ongrelization = hybrid vigor.
Racialicious (see below)

Does it happen in humans? Here are some links. There are conflicting opinions here and of course as in all studies that look into genetic differences within the human genome there is controversy.

http://www.neoteny.org/2009/08/04/hybrid-vigor/
http://www.bookrags.com/research/hetero ... ge-gen-02/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/060904_interracial.htm



Tiger Woods, Barak Obama, Brazilian women.

Racialicious.
http://www.racialicious.com/2010/06/09/ ... of-beauty/


Here is a book for those wanting to read further

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1569803064
Breeding Between the Lines: Why Interracial People are Healthier and More Attractive




Gisele Bundchen is an example of hybrid vigor? You must have been falling off your rocker for awhile. Just because she was born in Brazil does not mean she has mudblood. Just as other 2 girls whose picture your recrouted for your cause.
Anyway, just as a hybrid vigor there is a hybrid depression. And how long exactly this hybrid vigor lasts? One generation. Have you ever heard of a mulatto scientist? Didnt think so. An IQ of an average mulatto is 85. Smart enough to work different jobs, too stupid to be able to think.
Also, there are plenty of countries that are mongrelized beyond repair. Madagascar, Dominican republic to name a few. They arent particularly healthy or smart, just so you know.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby americandream » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 17:57:03

Pretorian

I beg to differ (although I am no advocate of immigration, inter-mixing of the races is healthy as is any cross breeding within a species).

Other than obvious racial mongrelisation, we have not really examined that extent to which we are all mongrelised where it is less obvious. For example, my fellow Afrikaner, Charlize Theron, has Xhosa African genes (same tribe as Mandela. Tip of the iceberg I would say) and yet is absolutely Nordic.

She is by no means lacking in any way, I would venture. Which illustrates the environmental rather than genetic nature of achievement (which stands scrutiny in any event in Cuba where blacks ansd whites perform equally).

At the very least, I would expect a performance measurably inferior to that of the pure blood where there is ANY mixing, notwithstanding appearances and following your logic, which seeks to make a measurable science of race.

edit: IQ is a measure of cultural intelligence. The more amenable a culture is to western style culturally imbued reasoning, the higher will its members score on the IQ scale which measures all the forms of the Western culture. To then ascribe that performance to ones genes which are mere codes for universal behaviour over and above those acquired skills, is not terribly logical.

You have a psychological problem with sharing your space with others who don't look like you. That may well be an underlying condition that needs help, but scientific it is not.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Ibon » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 18:09:27

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You have a psychological problem with sharing your space with others who don't look like you. That may well be an underlying condition that needs help, but scientific it is not.


This is not just an academic argument Pretorian. 50 years ago you could have nestled quite cozily in your racism with the society at large. But the society at large today isn't going the way you want unfortunately.

My children are both mongrels. It's not hard for me to embrace the trend. My family is a great example.

You go with the flow of the times or you are cast aside as obsolete.

Within your lifetime Pretorian mongrels will be the majority in the great old USA. If you really cant deal with this move to Idaho.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby americandream » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 18:26:28

I suspect that mongrels are quite a significant number, we just haven't done a tally. Many of these early colonies were woefully short of colonial women and the rest, as they say, I'll leave to your imagination.

What stands out for me in this whole race debate is the tendency for white appearanced mongrels to perform in a culturally immersed Western way, authentically. Now, coming from South Africa where we had a set in concrete system of racist reasoning with the pretense to science, I was often perplexed by this as a kid. It is this gaping hole in the pseudo scientific racism of my contemporaries that played a significant role in causing me to jettison that pyramid scheme.

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You have a psychological problem with sharing your space with others who don't look like you. That may well be an underlying condition that needs help, but scientific it is not.


This is not just an academic argument Pretorian. 50 years ago you could have nestled quite cozily in your racism with the society at large. But the society at large today isn't going the way you want unfortunately.

My children are both mongrels. It's not hard for me to embrace the trend. My family is a great example.

You go with the flow of the times or you are cast aside as obsolete.

Within your lifetime Pretorian mongrels will be the majority in the great old USA. If you really cant deal with this move to Idaho.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Ibon » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 18:38:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I') suspect that mongrels are quite a significant number, we just haven't done a tally.


Here is one tally we have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... ted_States

U.S. Census Population projections
2008 2050
Non-Hispanic whites 66% 46%
Hispanics (of any race) 15% 30%
African Americans 14% 15%
Asian Americans 5% 9%

This is not specific to mongrelization but I love how they have to put the perenthesis (of any race) under hispanics which shows how race and culture cannot be separated.

I know a dude in panama who is very very black. he lived awhile in the US and is now back in Panama. He told me that he never realized he was black until he went to the USA and witnessed the racial polarization first hand.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 19:04:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')f you think that having 100s of thousands of years apart in different environments and having different human species as a co-contributors in a gene pool can come up to only some cultural differences, that intelect and hormonal levels are a cultural thing too, then learn Spanish and hook up your daughter with a decent African-American while you still can.


And this is why the immigration and globalization debates have been lost. People don't want to associate with racists, so when the anti-immigration camp also spouts overt racism, it just pushes people away to the other extreme of accepting open borders.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Pretorian » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 01:50:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') know a dude in panama who is very very black. he lived awhile in the US and is now back in Panama. He told me that he never realized he was black until he went to the USA and witnessed the racial polarization first hand.


Really, did he. Strange , because Panama was the very first place where I witnessed open Negroid hatred toward whites (me in particular). Mulatto that was serving as a controle mouse on the border probably had never seen a White Man that needed a visa to enter his native shithole before. So this little guy saw an opportunity to be a little boss and took my passport away and so on. I had another flight in the morning so I thought I will go out to Panama-city to strall around. Long story short, Copa Airlines within a few minutes arranged me a complimentary stay in a very nice hotel not far from airport with free transfers and free dinner and breakfast. Poor mongrel was almost crying, I kid you not. He thought I didnt hear or understood the news so he tried to shove me my passport back and said with such a disgust in the voice " just go. you dont need any stamps". So I stayed and in a few minutes he was stamping me a transit visa right there.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Pretorian » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 02:12:23

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You have a psychological problem with sharing your space with others who don't look like you. That may well be an underlying condition that needs help, but scientific it is not.

This is not just an academic argument Pretorian. 50 years ago you could have nestled quite cozily in your racism with the society at large. But the society at large today isn't going the way you want unfortunately.

My children are both mongrels. It's not hard for me to embrace the trend. My family is a great example.

You go with the flow of the times or you are cast aside as obsolete.


Yes I do know that your children are mongrels and it is not surprising for me that you root for mongrelisation or their acceptance in the society.

as for the flow of times, well you should cut off your trees in that cloudy forest as that is how they will end up anyway. Thats the flow of times for you. And with the proceeds you can arrange a proper dowry for your daughters so some proper men will consider them despite of their origin.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')ithin your lifetime Pretorian mongrels will be the majority in the great old USA. If you really cant deal with this move to Idaho.
Yes , there is a very strong possibility of that. Neverthless it does not mean end of white influence over US. Bolivia is what, 5 % white? Yet Morales is the very first non-white president there. And I'm sure all biz and a bulk of comfy chairs are still under whites. Same story in any Latin American country, I am sure Panama is not an exeption. White people rule.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby dissident » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 18:02:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ulatto that was serving as a controle mouse on the border probably had never seen a White Man that needed a visa to enter his native shithole before. So this little guy saw an opportunity to be a little boss and took my passport away and so on. I had another flight in the morning so I thought I will go out to Panama-city to strall around.


My experience with customs-tards is that they are basically scum no matter what their skin colour is. I guess power-tripping degenerates are attracted to these jobs like flies to sh*t. It's their supervisor's fault for not firing their as*es when they behave this way. The police profession has similar issues.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')everthless it does not mean end of white influence over US. Bolivia is what, 5 % white? Yet Morales is the very first non-white president there. And I'm sure all biz and a bulk of comfy chairs are still under whites. Same story in any Latin American country, I am sure Panama is not an exeption. White people rule.


The issue here is that the "white" clique was installed into power during Spanish colonialism. I guess you could try and argue that South American aboriginals were "deficient" for not having the same development as the Europeans in the 1600s. That would be basically a might makes right argument. In the long run the South American aboriginals had the right development for long term sustainability and it is the Europeans that are sending this planet into oblivion with their entropy maximizing growth obsession (the Chinese and Indians are following the beacon of humanity).

BTW, one of the main reasons Mexico is such a sh*thole these days is because of the US illegal drug market. The cartels don't exist on the Mexican drug demand.
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Re: The Vanishing American Consumer

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 19:20:52

This thread has gotten way off track. The American Consumer isn't vanishing because of black customs agents in Panama. :roll: But while we're on about it, Pretorian should consider maybe people are rude to him because he's so darn mean rather than because he's white.
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