[Plantagenet]

[PrestonSturges]

This should sound startlingly familiar. Remember that "Jew" and "liberal" were used interchangeably, make that swap and it's indistinguishable from the right wing mainstream.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')If anywhere, therefore, it is here that the state must not forget that all means must serve an end; it must not let itself be confused by the drivel about so-called 'freedom of the press' and let itself be talked into neglecting its duty and denying the nation the food which it needs and which is good for it; with ruthless determination it must make sure of this instrument of popular education, and place it in the service of the state and the nation.
But what food did the German press of the pre-War period dish out to the people? Was it not the worst poison that can even be imagined? Wasn't the worst kind of pacifism injected into the heart of our people at a time when the rest of the world was preparing to throttle Germany, slowly but surely? Even in peacetime didn't the press inspire the minds of the people with doubt in the right of their own state, thus from the outset limiting them in the choice of means for its defense? Was it not the German press which knew how to make the absurdity of 'Western democracy' palatable to our people until finally, ensnared by all the enthusiastic tirades, they thought they could entrust their future to a League of Nations? Did it not help to teach our people a miserable immorality? Did it not ridicule morality and ethics as backward and petty-bourgeois, until our people finally became 'modern'? Did it not with its constant attacks undermine the foundations of the state's authority until a single thrust sufficed to make the edifice collapse? Did it not fight with all possible means against every effort to give unto the state that which is the state's? Did it not belittle the army with constant criticism, sabotage universal conscription, demand the refusal of military credits, etc., until the result became inevitable?
The so-called liberal press was actively engaged in digging the grave of the German people and the German Reich. We can pass by the lying Marxist sheets in silence; to them lying is just as vitally necessary as catching mice for a cat; their function is only to break the people's national and patriotic backbone and make them ripe for the slave's yoke of international capital and its masters, the Jews.
And what did the state do against this mass poisoning of the nation? Nothing, absolutely nothing. A few ridiculous decrees, a few fines for villainy that went too far, and that was the end of it. Instead, they hoped to curry favor with this plague by flattery, by recognition of the 'value' of the press, its 'importance,' its 'educational mission,' and more such nonsense-as for the Jews, they took all this with a crafty smile and acknowledged it with sly thanks.
The reason, however, for this disgraceful failure on the part of the state was not that it did not recognize the danger, but rather in a cowardice crying to high Heaven and the resultant halfheartedness of all decisions and measures. No one had the courage to use thoroughgoing radical methods, but in this as in everything else they tinkered about with a lot of halfway prescriptions, and instead of carrying the thrust to the heart, they at most irritated the viper-with the result that not only did everything remain as before, but on the contrary the power of the institutions which should have been combated increased from year to year.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I') think we pounded the Fox story into the dirt so I'm not going to worry about staying on topic.

So did Obama win the election, or did Acorn steal 8,000,000,000 votes?

[PrestonSturges]

McCain escaped scrutiny over his cancer, his PTSD, his full medical disability, refusal to release medical records, dumping his first wife for a meal ticket, and didn't he admit to suicide attempts in Vietnam? Palin wasn't questioned about her belief in witchcraft and demonology, association with secessionist militia groups, or where her lakeside house magically appeared from without bribery.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '.')...McCain ... Palin ....

[Fishman]

Efarm
Thanks for the question, no, Hill was not my choice, I did vote for her in the Primary as she was clearly far more experienced that Obama. I would have voted against her in the general election. My preference is to have a choice between two potentially competent candidates. That's why I mentioned the press went through ALL the other candidates far more thoroughly than O, Republican or Democrat. Poor Preston can't focus beyond party. As Plant states, its 17 months later and as the polls show today, more and more of America are recognizing his incompetence. The liberal media is in full support mode with NUMEROUS folks yesterday calling his move for Petraus "brilliant". Its so pathetic that Newsbuster has a montage of all the talking head calling the move "brilliant". If the Jones story is questionable, then the last 20 months of MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN are questionable.

[Fiddlerdave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'A')side from the fact that you are doing your inevitable threadjack, does anyone have any actual information about these skimmers like the manufacturers web site? This big hardware, and I did not see them when I was reading up on skimmers.

It's nice to toss around numbers, but considering how much of your information is totally made up, you should offer some facts instead of just threadjacking.

[efarmer]

I just see the duty of the left and right media at this point as being the source of instigation to keep the people fighting so they don't interfere in the auctions to raise campaign funds in return for tagged pieces of elected official's actions and duties. This is the major bipartisan point of agreement.
Remember, when the corporate looting stops, we can stop fighting each other and take a rest.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '.')...McCain ... Palin ....

[Plantagenet]

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[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', '.')..absurd claims of how Obama "could have prevented/ended/cleaned up the spill .....

[quadzillajim]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', '.')..absurd claims of how Obama "could have prevented/ended/cleaned up the spill .....

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', 'T')hen there are the absurd claims that the Obama administration is powerless and has no responsibility to oversee anything that happens in the Gulf of Mexico. In this alternate universe Obama didn't stupidly appoint a woman to head the MMS who knew nothing about drilling and didn't ignorantly claim that deepwater rigs are safe and the Obama administration didn't abjectly fail at regulating the Deepwater Horizon and didn't fake inspections and didn't give BP exemptions from environmental and safety laws and is right to take no steps to seal the well and stop the oil spill and has done a super job of keeping all the beaches clean and the marshes free of oil.

[PrestonSturges]

Maddow has a PhD in political science from Oxford, Hannity is dropout. Hannity hold rallies "for the troops" and pockets the money, etc etc.

While MSNBC makes an occasional mistake, they will not gin up hoaxes and run them week after week. Fox is generally promoting a major hoax at any given time. Remember Obama's "madrassa?" The list is endless. Today Napolitano was declaring bank reform was an example of a radically unconstitutional action by Obama. Switched to MSNBC who noted all the bank stocks were up today in response to the tepid reform bill.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'M')addow has a PhD in political science from Oxford, Hannity is dropout. Hannity hold rallies "for the troops" and pockets the money, etc etc.

While MSNBC makes an occasional mistake, they will not gin up hoaxes and run them week after week.

[PrestonSturges]

Maddow does some pretty good interviews. She's had one the guys who ran the industrial strength astoturf for the tea party, and he was the slickest character I've ever seen. Speaking of talking points, Dick Armey demonizes her because she has shed a lot of light on his operations.

Where Glenn Beck talks about Woodrow Wilson and Saul Alinsky, Maddow talks about real people in DC and who pays who and shows how the tobacco denialists, climate change denialists, and health care reform denialists are the same people running very well funded operations. And she invites them on.

Now a lot of people has their panties in a bunch because Rand Paul totally self destructed on her show because he refused to say that he thought the government should outlaw discrimination in public businesses. There was no deception no misquoting, she gave him at least 15 chances to say what he thought over 20 minutes. I watched that interview twice.

The "talking point" was Dick Armey saying that Rand had been misquoted, and Armey made up stuff that Rachel supposedly said. So you had Armey making up fake quotes for Maddow where she was supposedly misquoting Rand, when there were no such quotes from her. So Armey makes up a lie accusing someone else of lying. Rand Paul makes himself look stupid, and Armey runs around peddling a cover story about stuff that never happened. And Rand Paul did not say he was treated unfairly.

So did you watch that interview, or did you believe the Dick Armey fantasy version where you accept talking points from a professional PR flak as reality? And crude oil is actually good for pelicans.

[PrestonSturges]

...and what's really hurting the tea party way worse than the media is reporting is that so many of these candidates sound completely insane once they get outside of the little bubble they live in.

Look at people like Michelle Bachmann saying Obama has seized control of over 50% of the economy or Newt or Mitch McConnell saying Obama took over 1/6 of the economy with HCR. It's one thing to say that, because that's "stupid drunk talk" that you could only hear from an alcoholic after they'd been drunk for a week. But what Fox and even pretend journalists like David Gregory don't do is say "Whoa, back it up a second. Do you really believe that?" Because those are just patently insane beliefs.

But you have people that are conditioned to only accept 'information" in the form of propaganda. These are a very specific target demographic - the dumbest ten percent of the population. And they get scammed into buying gold coins, and most of the advertisers are bankruptcy lawyers.

Right now they are pretty convinced they are supposed to be killing someone, probably their neighbors. As Voltaire said “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" This is why Jews have abandoned the GOP - they recognize these people as the type who went on pogroms. Hopefully Fox won't declare the Jews have been poisoning the wells, because things would get ugly in an instant.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('quadzillajim', 'h')e did bitch slap british petroleum out of 20 Billion!! dollars. Ask the people in Prince William Sound or them poor Indians in Bhopol what they think so far of Obama's actions.

[quadzillajim]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '.')..and what's really hurting the tea party way worse than the media is reporting is that so many of these candidates sound completely insane once they get outside of the little bubble they live in.

Look at people like Michelle Bachmann saying Obama has seized control of over 50% of the economy or Newt or Mitch McConnell saying Obama took over 1/6 of the economy with HCR. It's one thing to say that, because that's "stupid drunk talk" that you could only hear from an alcoholic after they'd been drunk for a week. But what Fox and even pretend journalists like David Gregory don't do is say "Whoa, back it up a second. Do you really believe that?" Because those are just patently insane beliefs.

But you have people that are conditioned to only accept 'information" in the form of propaganda. These are a very specific target demographic - the dumbest ten percent of the population. And they get scammed into buying gold coins, and most of the advertisers are bankruptcy lawyers.

Right now they are pretty convinced they are supposed to be killing someone, probably their neighbors. As Voltaire said “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" This is why Jews have abandoned the GOP - they recognize these people as the type who went on pogroms. Hopefully Fox won't declare the Jews have been poisoning the wells, because things would get ugly in an instant.