[Plantagenet]

Now it comes out that the Obama administration pushed hard to get wire taps on the Trump campaign. The first time the FISA court turned down the BO people----which never happens because court approved 99% of all surveillance requests. This means the court felt the Obama administration request was unbelievably flimsy. So the BO people went to court a second time in 2015 pushing to wiretap and the second time the court approved it.

So the Obama admin was wiretapping the Rs all through the 2016 campaign.

WOW

Even Nixon never pulled that off. My hat is off to Obama---he's outdone Nixon at campaign sleaze

[ROCKMAN]

Monkey - That generalization doesn't work to well in the US when you look north vs south: a New York R politician probably couldn't get elected by D voters is Texas: way to liberal even for their taste. LOL. As we say: Texas is just a tad right of Genghis Chan: even our liberal D's have cancelled handgun licenses. LOL.

[Newfie]

Plant,
Any links?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'N')ow it comes out that the Obama administration pushed hard to get wire taps on the Trump campaign. The first time the FISA court turned down the BO people----which never happens because court approved 99% of all surveillance requests. This means the court felt the Obama administration request was unbelievably flimsy. So the BO people went to court a second time in 2015 pushing to wiretap and the second time the court approved it.

So the Obama admin was wiretapping the Rs all through the 2016 campaign.

WOW

Even Nixon never pulled that off. My hat is off to Obama---he's outdone Nixon at campaign sleaze

[Cog]

If there was no wire-tapping who is the source of the classified intercepts that are being leaked to the New York Times and Washington Post?

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'P')lant, do you mean this NONSENSE?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/ ... tap-tweet/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')President Donald Trump made a stunning claim Saturday, alleging without offering evidence that his predecessor, Barack Obama, wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower ahead of the 2016 election.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')f there was no wire-tapping who is the source of the classified intercepts that are being leaked to the New York Times and Washington Post?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'P')olitical Extremism
The "radical left"... lol
Both US political parties are to the right of Australias right wing political party.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')nx Outcaste, you do remember wikileaks and Bernie.

Of course Trump was wire tapped. It is no big deal. We are wire tapped. It's a national security state and Trump spent a time and money in Russia. And Russia stole NATO's oil. We must have it back.

[KaiserJeep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')he wire tap was against Trump, not his campaign.

Anyway Trump had no campaign. Trump had a series of free media-sponsored infomercial for Himself.

[Cog]

Here is your peaceful left assaulting Trump supporters in Berkeley. But this time, the right is fighting back. Enjoy. I think I might have to go to the next one in my area and see if I can get some licks in on an Antifa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0QngkYj4Rg

[jedrider]

Political Extremism meet Mental Instability

of even those well-educated and socially integrated:

Colorado geophysicist becomes a Capitol rioter
https://www.rawstory.com/jeffrey-sabol-rioter/

because of Obama? Racism seems to have deep roots in our psych that we may even be unaware of.

[Newfie]

Wackos come in all stripes.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ps ... -the-white

Now think about this a minute.

Humans evolved as a severely disadvantaged species that survived because we were omnivores, predators, clever, propagated all year round, and exterminated our related species, even though we were sufficiently closely related to breed and have off spring. That is our history, that is the crucible that spit us out.

Where did all that genetic programming go?

Nowhere, is still here, part if us. We are still the same critter that fought our way to be the apex critter. So where does that preprogrammed energy and hostility go? That energy and hostility that exterminated the neanderthals because they were a bit different from us still exists within us. It is looking for an outlet, for an excuse to kill.

[jedrider]

Nothing some time in the slammer can't fix, though, except for the most indoctrinated or sincere in their beliefs.

I think this guy realized how his mind had misled him.

[Newfie]

I read the article. Sounds like the guy guy is having some mental health issues.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Nothing some time in the slammer can't fix

[jedrider]

Ah, so quickly we descent into false equivalency!

My point was that this mental disfunction is quite common.

I don't think this guy was about to blow away a capitol officer.

However, he did lead himself into a violent situation, but I'm quite sure that 'attempted murder' will not the accusation.

Again, that false equivalency is another shield against admitting one's denial, possibility a closely related psychological manifestation of political extremism.

I've told the story on how I became a Republican for about a month! Well, not really a Republican, but I joined with a clear majority of Republicans getting riled up on some local issue. I finally got treatment and that is clearly in the past now. I remember being in the City Counsel meeting and hearing all these preposterous testimonies, but not being able to tell myself that I was falling for it, sort of one side of the mind not getting something across to the other side. Well, we should be vigilant against harboring false beliefs that are ultimately detrimental.

[JuanP]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'W')ackos come in all stripes.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-ps ... -the-white

Now think about this a minute.
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