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Re: PeakOil.com mention
by Newsseeker » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 18:42:12
It is interesting that peak oil has a Website. I didn't know that it did until now.
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Re: PeakOil.com mention
by sameu » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 18:50:41
maybe the autor thought it was this site http://www.peakoil.co.uk/
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Re: PeakOil.com mention
by sameu » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 18:55:02
btw the day I discovered that site my irony detector exploded
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Re: PeakOil.com mention
by Tanada » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 19:02:11
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sameu', 'm')aybe the autor thought it was this site http://www.peakoil.co.uk/
OMG that is just too funny! Thanx for posting the link!
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Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: PeakOil.com mention
by steam_cannon » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 20:02:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..A short summary of the process has been named as "hydrogen extraction from water via plasmatic induction. By inducing a small amount of plasma into a water tank, we're able to extract hydrogen from the water." The "plasmatic induction," as been mentioned by Hunt mentioned as a form of electrolysis. The water used is ordinary drinking water...
...a motorist would take his vehicle to a special service station to have the carbon rods replaced...
An interesting article...
...a motorist would take his vehicle to a special service station to have the carbon rods replaced...
For amusement, I was thinking about how this technology might work since they seem not to be giving away too many details. Here are my thoughts:
Perhaps it's just a fancy gasifier with steam injection?
Since they mentioned getting carbon rods replaced, it made me think of the endothermic(energy losing) water gas reaction used to produce Hydrogen.
About the water gas reaction...
C + H2O --> CO + H2
"The reaction is endothermic so the coke must be continually re-heated to keep the reaction going. This was usually done by alternating the steam stream with an air stream."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_gas
"While this reaction could be used to produce hydrogen, the high temperatures required make it cost-prohibitive."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_gas_shift_reaction
One way this technology could work... Instead of using a bed of hot coals and hot steam, use arching carbon welding rods. Like doped carbon rods sparking in the presence of steam and air. Further, reacting with oxygen in the air might offset the exothermic loss of energy, yielding extra energy for powering an engine. I'm assuming a good amount of energy is used to produce an electric arch to gasify carbon rod ends.
Steam or sonic water vapor and air is sucked to the arching carbon plasma zone. Out of that zone exits N, CO, H to be burnt by an engine?
Burning some of the carbon would be necessary for this device not to be a perpetual motion machine. You can burn magnesium metal with water and get excess heat and hydrogen. But not with carbon, so perhaps heat is gained by burning some of the carbon, as in the water gas reaction?
So possibly we are talking about a car that runs on gasified carbon rods instead of gasoline. Carbon rods are easier to come by, though it would still be releasing CO2.
However, this is just my first guess reading the article. They may have found a magic way to encourage Hydrogen and Oxygen to go their separate ways without burning the carbon creating CO2. Perhaps in a plasma, hydrogen and oxygen can be separated magnetically? But that should still be an energy loser. Carrying batteries for electrolysis would make about as much sense.
But hey if they are just burning carbon rods, it's just a fancy gasifier with steam injection. Well ok, more like carbon plasma injected into a water vapor and air mixture. Still nothing too new.
These are just some fun guesses. I'd like to know how their device works, if it works, and if it works how well...
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Re: PeakOil.com mention
by steam_cannon » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 20:09:25
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sameu', 'm')aybe the autor thought it was this site http://www.peakoil.co.uk/
btw the day I discovered that site my irony detector exploded
Great link! I love the picture on their site, totally Ironic!!! Peak Oil truck fueling a farm vehicle, talk about the oil we eat! btw the day I discovered that site my irony detector exploded
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