[MonteQuest]

For those of you who have not been following my blogs, I thought his one might tickle you. Courtesy of the Einsteins at ar15.com


Pearls of Wisdom on Peak Oil

Today, I have put together a blog that is the cumulative utterances of a group of people who just don’t quite get it as yet. The only editing I have done is for spelling and pronouns; otherwise, it is unaltered.

I think the whole “Peak Oilâ€

[j_bumble]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'W')hatever grows in considerable bulk in a short time is ideal. The rest is organic chemistry.

[Doly]

Actually, chemistry required for biodiesel isn't that complex. Several vegetable oils work fine on diesel motors today.

The bulk is a trickier issue. Do we have the land to cultivate enough biodiesel?

[Trab]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'T')he bulk is a trickier issue. Do we have the land to cultivate enough biodiesel?

[GD]

Google search on "high oil prices":

http://iht.com/articles/2005/03/15/business/oil.html
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"The numbers speak for themselves, but it's up to the market to interpret them," said Vincent Delisle, a strategist at Scotia Capital in Montreal. "Any time anyone says we're in a new era of oil prices, I feel the need to remind them that oil is a commodity and commodity prices are cyclical. We're in a mania environment for anything related to oil that lacks fundamental reasoning."

[FatherOfTwo]

If those statements weren’t so sad, scary and pathetic they’d be hilarious.

[oowolf]

Is this statement generally indicative of the Indy-car mindset?
Anyone know of a finer definition of "clueless"?

[Ayoob_Reloaded]

The hits keep on coming. That thread's up to 15 pages, and it seems that Peak_Oil has called out the board to a live debate. Developing...

[khebab]

This article sums up well what a lot of smart people are thinking when they have their first contact with PO: denial. Technology will solve all our problems, our science is powerful. People have some much difficulty in understanding that our civilization is vulnerable because dependent on key finite ressources.They think that we will always produce enough ingenuity to face new challenges regardless of how diffcult the challenge is. The problem is that producing enough ingenuity requires a lot of energy, time and social stability which are running out. I'm actually reading a excellent book on that particular topic: "The Ingenuity Gap" by Thomas Homer-Dixon (The Ingenuity Gap):

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an we solve the problems of the future? Thomas Homer-Dixon tackles this question in a groundbreaking study of a world becoming too complex and too fast-paced to manage.

The challenges we face converge, intertwine, and often remain largely beyond our understanding. Most of us suspect that the "experts" don't really know what's going on and that as a species we've released forces that are neither managed nor manageable. This is the ingenuity gap, the critical gap between our need for ideas to solve complex problems and our actual supply of those ideas.

Poor countries are particularly vulnerable to ingenuity gaps, but our own rich countries are no longer immune, and we're all caught dangerously between a soaring requirement for ingenuity and an increasingly uncertain supply. As the gap widens, the result can be political disintegration and violent upheaval.

With riveting anecdotes and lucid argument, Thomas Homer-Dixon uses his ingenuity theory to suggest how we might approach these problems -- in our own lives, our thinking, our businesses, and our societies.

[k_semler]

I can sum it up with just these brief descriptions of all of the points:

1. We can use the "Last Man Standing" policy to ensure our supply.
2. We should drill more.
3. Undying faith in technology and human ingenutity as our saviour.

No new arguments here that have not been refuted before.

[Free]

The really weird thing is the attitude "something will come along"....

Isn't this totally the opposite of a normal reaction of people to a problem?

If I am out in the desert with a car, and my gas is almost empty, wouldn't I say, oh I have to find a petrol station, and if I dont find one I have to have a backup plan because otherwise I am in big shit. I wouldn't say: "Don't worry something will come along..."

Weird, how in this matter people are so irrational.... I think it's just secret fear.

[Subjectivist]

Peak Oil hasn't been the doom I was expecting, in fact all things considered things are at least on the surface, not that bad after eleven years.

[ennui2]

Great. Someone else has joined the "It's not that bad" club.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'G')reat. Someone else has joined the "It's not that bad" club.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'P')eak Oil hasn't been the doom I was expecting, in fact all things considered things are at least on the surface, not that bad after eleven years.

[ROCKMAN]

First, "doom" can mean anything and thus it's meaningless. IOW one can't say 'doom" has arrived or not since it can't be qualified let alond quantified. Second, there's the relativity factor: "doom" for whom? For the thousands of US military killed, the tens of thousands wounded, the hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and the $TRILLIONS of tax dollars pissed away...well that might smell rather doomerish to some folks. LOL. And since the Rockman didn't get his legs blown off by an IED, none of his relatives weren't collateral damage and even after paying taxes he still had a nice net income he didn't suffer any doom. Then again all those college grads with a collective tuition debt of $1 TRILLION with limited job possibilities might have a touch of the doom flu. There are a great many who got hit right between the eyes by the POD generated "doom". And that count goes up daily on the other side of the energy fence as the oil patch is definitely slipping into the doom universe as the POD delivers the all to predictable low oil prices.

One man's ''doom": is another man's good times. Until there's the evitable role reversal. Which will be followed eventually by another role reversal. Etc., etc., etc.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', '
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One man's ''doom": is another man's good times. Until there's the evitable role reversal. Which will be followed eventually by another role reversal. Etc., etc., etc.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'F')irst, "doom" can mean anything and thus it's meaningless. IOW one can't say 'doom" has arrived or not since it can't be qualified let alond quantified. Second, there's the relativity factor: "doom" for whom? For the thousands of US military killed, the tens of thousands wounded, the hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and the $TRILLIONS of tax dollars pissed away...well that might smell rather doomerish to some folks. LOL. And since the Rockman didn't get his legs blown off by an IED, none of his relatives weren't collateral damage and even after paying taxes he still had a nice net income he didn't suffer any doom. Then again all those college grads with a collective tuition debt of $1 TRILLION with limited job possibilities might have a touch of the doom flu. There are a great many who got hit right between the eyes by the POD generated "doom". And that count goes up daily on the other side of the energy fence as the oil patch is definitely slipping into the doom universe as the POD delivers the all to predictable low oil prices.

One man's ''doom": is another man's good times. Until there's the evitable role reversal. Which will be followed eventually by another role reversal. Etc., etc., etc.

[peripato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'P')eak Oil hasn't been the doom I was expecting, in fact all things considered things are at least on the surface, not that bad after eleven years.

[peripato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', 'G')reat. Someone else has joined the "It's not that bad" club.