[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')hought you were driving some technology designed to cope with high fuel costs VM? Really Americans moaning on an international site about high prices which are substantially less than most of the rest of us have been paying for years, gets a little tiresome.

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', 'I')f it can be done in Europe by a geeky 130lb weakling like I was at that time, it can be done in the US by anyone in even mediocre shape.

[SamInNebraska]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', ' ')Whatever happened to the pioneer spirit?

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', 'H')owever, the dream of my English youth of doing the 'Dick Turpin' ride (200 miles in a day, but on a bike, not a horse) from London to York is probably beyond me now.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SamInNebraska', 'I')t is still here. Us fat and out of shape Americans used it, and our wonderful technology, to go build these so we don't have to use bicycles if we don't want to. nissan-leaf.jpg

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'E')ven if it came to that sooner, I very much doubt the store would have anything on the shelves anyway. Venturing out would be just a dangerous wasted trip at that point.

[ROCKMAN]

Lore – “I'd sooner take my chances sneaking around on foot then getting shot out of the saddle”. Now you’re starting to think like a Texican. Congrats. And remember: the shadows are your friends. LOL.

On a serious note, I would imagine if/when the day comes if a large portion of our population is FORCED to use non-motorized transportation to and from a job or the grocery store it will be the least of our problems. There will probably be a lot fewer jobs and not many well stocked groceries. Voluntary conservation by any means today would be nice but it’s difficult to imagine it will make a significant difference. IMHO the American people do what needs to be done only when they are forced to do it.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'I')MHO the American people do what needs to be done only when they are forced to do it.

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '.')..maximal load is greater for walking and cart pulling. Even with a bike-trailer, I can carry more on my back than the bike can withstand...

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '.')..maximal load is greater for walking and cart pulling. Even with a bike-trailer, I can carry more on my back than the bike can withstand...

[ROCKMAN]

Agent – George Carlin had some thoughts along those lines:

“Americans will take a good idea and run it into the ground. They’ll also take a bad idea and run it into the ground.”

“When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in America, you get a front-row seat.”

“In America, anyone can become president. That’s the problem.”

“Capitalism tries for a delicate balance: It attempts to work things out so that everyone gets just enough stuff to keep them from getting violent and trying to take other people’s stuff.”

“That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

“We are a nation of sheep, and someone else owns the grass.”

“If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.”

[Beery1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'T')hey used bikes like pack animals, but they didn't ride them. They walked along beside them. They basically put to use what they had. It would have been more efficient to use large carts pulled by oxen, but then they couldn't have traveled as well under cover.

[Econ101]

I run 3 vehicles: 1994 F150 4-wheel drive bought new paid for. 2005 mercury Marque pd for bought with 20,000 miles. 2006 F150 4-wheel drive pd for, Last yr total cost for all 3 was $8,921.

Oil is the cheapest fuel in the world. A lot gets piled on:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Saudi Arabian crude is the cheapest in the world to extract
because of its location near the surface of the desert and the
size of the fields, which allow economies of scale.

The operating cost (stripping out capital expenditure) of
extracting a barrel in Saudi Arabia has been estimated to be
around $1-$2, and the total cost (including capital expenditure)
$4-$6 a barrel.

Extraction of Iraqi oil is in theory also very cheap,

[vision-master]

socialist programs:

Allow employers to destroy a living wage, give them MORE tax breaks and put the burden of SNAP, Medicaid and so on, on the backs of the taxpayers. (bc these poor ppl need assistance from the Government in order to survive).

Your such a shorty shill.

[Econ101]

[Econ101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Econ101', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 's')ocialist programs:

Allow employers to destroy a living wage, give them MORE tax breaks and put the burden of SNAP, Medicaid and so on, on the backs of the taxpayers. (bc these poor ppl need assistance from the Government in order to survive).

Your such a shorty shill.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Econ101', 'W')ell, I suppose you are correct, but you forget. The million produced in North Dakota since I posted yesterday is in addition the other 18 million already going to refineies. Somehow you never see production increases as additions. What do you think they are? What does it mean when production is up?

[Econ101]

Of course our imports are dropping. But the displaced supply is simply shipped to other markets and other refineries around the world. The point about importing is moot. The point that stays in play is the point the worlds supply is increasing by about 40,000 barrels/hour in North Dakota right now. Thats a good thing and demand including refineries located right by that flow would be a good thing, wouldnt you say? It would really perk up that eroei if we could get it refined there instead of russia or something.

[John_A]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')hought you were driving some technology designed to cope with high fuel costs VM? Really Americans moaning on an international site about high prices which are substantially less than most of the rest of us have been paying for years, gets a little tiresome.

[Econ101]

Marque pulls 22. Nice cruising machine. One of the best cars ever made.