[MattSavinar]

Hymalai:

I wholheartedly agree: I think the psychological aspect of this is too much for most folks to handle. It is practically too much for me to handle, and I'm knee deep in the muck.

This is why I don't think you will see Richard Heinberg on a show like Democracy Now.

Even the leftist/liberal organizations, who tend to be more receptive to the idea of finite resources, resource wars, etc.. . don't want somebody to come on their show and basically say:

"Sorry, but all of your causes mean nothing now."

I myself had a bit of this reaction internally - many of the social issues that were preeminent in my thinking ceased to mean so much as I learned more about hydrocarbon depletion.

If you've centered your whole life on a partiuclar issue, it is highly disconcerting to find out it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

This is true whether your life's goal was to move up in your corporation or whether your life's goal was to reform the justice system.

Matt

[PalatineCreator]

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you've centered your whole life on a partiuclar issue, it is highly disconcerting to find out it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

[Guest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JLK', 'I') think the most persuasive evidence that a crisis is fast approaching is the 20 year graph of discovery minus production. Once you've seen that, you may change your tune.

At the same time, we always have the be aware that everyone has agendas, and both proponents and detractors of POT have to be scrutinized carefully to make sure they aren't selling us a bill of goods. Caveat emptor.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rawneus', '.').... I hope you live in fear until the day you die with your precious peak oil theory tucked securely in the back of your mind.

[mgibbons19]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dmtu', 'I')f the majors wanted us to believe peak is here wouldn't they just tell their buddies in the mass media to print it up instead of us nuts trolling the backwaters of the internet to find related news?

[Grasshopper]

It seems to me that Dave McGowan only got involved in the peak oil debate to tweak Ruppert, although to do this he appears to have painstakingly researched a lot of possible alternatives, the most hilarious being the dinosaur goo theory. He likes to make his newsletters entertaining, which probably helps to sell advertising or subscriptions, no different from what he says is Michael Ruppert's motive. I am beginning to think that the Guests who come into these forums and link to Dave's website are just doing it to increase traffic on his website, which has it's own political slant, much like Ruppert's (neither of which I am much interested in, by the way).

Tracing oils back to a sedimentary source rock is a well developed and successful geochemical discipline, and oils can generally be ascribed to a source rock found in the same basin as the oil reservoir, so abiotic, or mantle/core sourced petroleum is highly unlikely;
Origin and Inferred Migration Fairways of Oils...
Exploiting the geochemical fingerprints of oils.
I am convinced that although the Russian and Ukrainian scientists who were/are proponents of mantle-sourced, abiotic oil are able scientists, they worked in the Soviet system, and were unduly influenced by the Soviet academy, much like Lysenko detrimentally influenced plant-breeding and genetics in the Soviet world.
I read Kenney's paper on thermodynamic experiments attempting to demonstrate that oil could not be formed except very deep in the mantle, and can only say that he was comparing molecules with the same number of carbon atoms as the hydrocarbons he was trying to generate, and that the source rocks contain complex molecules that break down when subjected to heat and pressure regimes found in the upper crust. These smaller molecules become oil when they migrate through aquifers and fractures to their ultimate petroleum trap, where they stay until found by drilling, or when the reservoir is breached by geological processes, and they evaporate or are subjected to bacterial degradation. The process of oil generation has probably occurred continuously through the geologic past, certainly since the Cambrian era, and will continue as long as there are oceans with plankton in them (plankton, including algae - much smaller than dinosaurs are the ultimate biological source of most oil, although one of the references above indicates some coals are a source).
Kenney:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')imilarly, such exploration in the western Siberia cratonic-rift sedimentary basin has developed 90 petroleum fields of which 80 produce either partly or entirely from the crystalline basement.