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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 13 Dec 2016, 16:19:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')wo more possible showings. On is in Seattle and the other is right nearby, in Carrabassett Valley. We'll see...


When in Seattle, and are you going to be there?
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Wed 14 Dec 2016, 12:00:38

I can't get there, but it might be at a friend's pizzeria. Here's the place:

http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2 ... carts.html

If they don't like the film, they are sure to love the pizza!

We hope to ship the DVDs over x-mas vacation, so it may happen early in the New Year.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Wed 14 Dec 2016, 14:58:47

Revi - "...people were thinking, even back then." I've mentioned it before but in case you missed it: in 1975 (41 years ago) my first mentor at Mobil Oil explained PO and estimated it would be around my retirement age (am 65 right now) when the effects would begin kicking in. He had been hunting for oil since the mid 40's (sidebar: he was a P-51 ace in WW II...very cool Okie). He had a front row seat to the increasing difficulty of fining new large oil reserves. Was he just a lucky guesser or just that smart? OTOH the Rockman has been hunting for oil for 40 years since his words and watched it become increasing more difficult to find large oil reserves. And in the late 80's the Rockman tood hus nephew his very young daughters would likely see PO rearing it's ugly head about the time they reach middle age. And they are in their late 30's now. The only surprises were the Deep Water oil trends and, of course, high oil prices the likes of which we haven't seen in over 35 years. And while those did wiggle the time line a bit we're still stumbling down the same path today.

So some of your audiences might be surprised to hear that a very small number of folks, who not coincidentally made a living looking for oil/NG, more or less expected the energy picture would look much like it does today.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Fri 16 Dec 2016, 10:15:10

Thanks Rockman! I will mention what you said when we discuss the film. It seems like it's going to be underneath everything, but nobody dares talk about it. Great to hear an oil guy who says that it's real!

I think Peak Oil is going to be a stealth effect. I like John Michael's most recent post. He explains the death of the Peak Oil movement, and then at the end calls it Net Energy and says it's still happening.

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com

I'm sorry, but I have heard nothing so far that convinces me that it's over. I'm calling it Net Energy nowadays and continuing on. People react better when they hear it called Net Energy. They aren't freaked out by it, but they should be!
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Mon 19 Dec 2016, 12:38:53

The next scheduled showing will be at 4:30 on Thursday, Feb. 23rd at the Carrabassett Village Library, right before the turn off to Sugarloaf on route 27. Check it out! We'll have a short discussion afterwards and maybe even go out to eat after it's done. That's in Maine. If you are interested in some great skiing, it's right nearby.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby sjn » Mon 19 Dec 2016, 12:55:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')hanks Rockman! I will mention what you said when we discuss the film. It seems like it's going to be underneath everything, but nobody dares talk about it. Great to hear an oil guy who says that it's real!

I think Peak Oil is going to be a stealth effect. I like John Michael's most recent post. He explains the death of the Peak Oil movement, and then at the end calls it Net Energy and says it's still happening.

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com

I'm sorry, but I have heard nothing so far that convinces me that it's over. I'm calling it Net Energy nowadays and continuing on. People react better when they hear it called Net Energy. They aren't freaked out by it, but they should be!

It sure is nice having more people join the in the "Net Energy"-er movement! :wink: Need a catchier name...

(I've been beating that drum here since Apr 2005!)
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Tue 20 Dec 2016, 09:25:32

What can we call it? Energy budget? Net Energy? Sustainability? Something catchy that tells about the problem where we need to use energy to get energy and we can't spend more than we make to get it.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby sjn » Tue 20 Dec 2016, 10:34:45

Maybe approach it from the other direction. What is it that makes people refuse to even contemplate the idea? There's much of that even here, whatever it is. Perhaps if we can identify that, a good antonym will present itself?
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 20 Dec 2016, 10:50:31

Revi - To support the point I made you might explain this recent surge in rig count to 1,800 a few years ago in response to the POD pales in comparison to the 4,500+ rigs drilling in the late 70's for the same reason: the POD. The inflation adjusted oil price then was similar to the boom experienced this century.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 20 Dec 2016, 12:05:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')hanks Rockman! I will mention what you said when we discuss the film. It seems like it's going to be underneath everything, but nobody dares talk about it. Great to hear an oil guy who says that it's real!


Peak oil was real to everyone who has claimed it either happening, or happening day after tomorrow, going back to 1886. And Lynch and Yergin say it is real as well, so the energy analysts seem to be right there with the industry folks.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')I think Peak Oil is going to be a stealth effect.


A good call, considering that when it was claimed to be the end of the world, it happened, and the world kept on going and barely noticed. So pretty stealthy indeed, when something can happen and truck sales are up because of its non-cataclysmic effect on crude prices. Well, there is always the next one.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
') I like John Michael's most recent post. He explains the death of the Peak Oil movement, and then at the end calls it Net Energy and says it's still happening.

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com


JMG fell for peak oil the last time, effectively including himself in the group that failed, by his own writing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')I'm sorry, but I have heard nothing so far that convinces me that it's over. I'm calling it Net Energy nowadays and continuing on. People react better when they hear it called Net Energy. They aren't freaked out by it, but they should be!


For true believers, it never will be over. Folks who learned, be it from the peak oil claim for 1989 from Colin, or the end of oil by the late 80's from the President of the US, of the US running out of oil in the 1940's mentioned by the Secretary of Interior, or US peak by 1950 called by Hubbert, of US peak called by the USGS in 1919, peak oil is an ongoing saga, guaranteed to be true, but no one really knowing when.

As of late, not having a fuel bill because the wife's car isn't powered by those nasty, eco-system destroying, war generating liquid fuels, makes the entire peak oil thing seem so....irrelevant? As you begin to leave crude oil behind for basic transport needs (where most oil is used), the entire concept of peak oil just begins to seem....quaint?
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby sjn » Tue 20 Dec 2016, 16:28:48

I've split off the tangential discussion on Complex Systems and Net Energy.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 21 Dec 2016, 00:27:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')he next scheduled showing will be at 4:30 on Thursday, Feb. 23rd at the Carrabassett Village Library, right before the turn off to Sugarloaf on route 27. Check it out! We'll have a short discussion afterwards and maybe even go out to eat after it's done. That's in Maine. If you are interested in some great skiing, it's right nearby.


You do realize that Maine is at one end of the country, 1500 miles from even a centerpoint that would make it easier for more people to get there, right? How about...somewhere in Kansas? At least that state has some oil and gas, I'm not sure there are even any people in Maine that know anything about oil and gas except how to consume it.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby sjn » Wed 21 Dec 2016, 13:13:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sjn', 'I')'ve split off the tangential discussion on Complex Systems and Net Energy.

Any discussion with AdamB is by definition tangential. And not too complex.

Well, apparently attempting to discuss this stuff makes one a "poser". Too many long words and typos... :?
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 21 Dec 2016, 14:38:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sjn', 'M')aybe approach it from the other direction. What is it that makes people refuse to even contemplate the idea?


They possess more critical thinking skills?
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Mon 26 Dec 2016, 21:45:56

Hoping to have the film done tomorrow or the next day! Putting titles on and getting it sent out to those who helped with the kickstarter. Thanks! Wish us luck!
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 27 Dec 2016, 12:09:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'H')oping to have the film done tomorrow or the next day! Putting titles on and getting it sent out to those who helped with the kickstarter. Thanks! Wish us luck!


Good luck!
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Thu 29 Dec 2016, 00:06:43

We're shipping the DVDs tomorrow. We just got them done. If you want to get a copy, PM me and we'll figure it out. $20, and the money goes to the next project.
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Fri 30 Dec 2016, 00:55:01

I shipped them to all the people who were on our Kickstarter list. We sold at least 5 more as well. I think it is going to get some critical acclaim. Let me know what you think of the film if you get one, or see it please.

Thanks! It's been a really fun project! Nelson Cole deserves all the credit. He is the director and creative genius behind the film!
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Re: Peak Oil: A Love Story

Unread postby Revi » Tue 03 Jan 2017, 12:43:51

We sold a few more! The money from this one goes toward our next film, entitled "The Day My Brother Robbed a Bank". It's about the film maker's brother who really did that in 1992! We were at the site of the robbery interviewing him and it is shaping up to be a very interesting film.

Peak Oil: A Love Story is a good way to get people who aren't that interested in peak oil thinking about it. It's an entertaining way of getting the message across. We hope the new film will be like that also.
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