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Oil "Insider" says we've peaked, and worse . . .

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Unread postby nailud » Thu 24 Feb 2005, 10:06:02

Pops: You are, as always, a voice of reason.
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Unread postby azur » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 14:51:43

Interesting post. I have a few comments.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')) We are drilling rig limited


True, but it should be noted that advances in well engineering means that we need fewer wells to produce a field than before. Production rates of 30,000 bpd+ for deep offshore wells was previously a dream, but is now becoming common by using long horizontal gravel packed completions and multi-lateral wells.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')) We are personnel limited


True, there is a steady drift away from engineering and the offshore business in general. Peak Oil does not help the recruitment process…

3) 4) and 5) I generally agree with.

It is 6) where I start to have problems with this post.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '6')) For the most part, the biggest fields have been discovered world wide. What remains is technologically prohibitive (water depth, downhole temperature or sheer depth of the deposit). We are all fighting for the scraps as things exist today, with the exception of the African coast.


There are few technology barriers left down to 2000m – there are several fields worldwide producing between 1500 and 2000m. New technology allows us now to go to 3000m, and the first fields are being developed in the 2-3000m bracket.
Several HP/HT fields have already been developed in the North Sea (and in the US Gulf I think) but they are pretty scarce.
The technology barrier is more on the drill rig side, to be able to explore beyond 3000m. However, there are doubts as to whether there is much to find beyond this water depth.

[quote]Some numbers for the number bunch to crunch: The average offshore rig cost $24,000 per day to rent in 2003, and today the same 30 year-old-rig costs $40,000 per day to rent due to rig availability. Yes, most of our rigs are 30 or more years old – would you rent a cabin on a 30 year-old cruise ship? Yet this is what we drill oil wells with in the new millennium…..

Multiply that times the average 45 days to drill a “second tierâ€
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Unread postby pup55 » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 16:19:58

Thanks, Azur for your comments...

But now I have a quesiton on the issue of "hurdle rates" for a drillling project:

Per what you said, it may take $10M in exploration charges plus $160K per day to run the rig to drill out a deposit.

So easy to calculate how expensive a given project will be to drill. Someone was saying not long ago that it might be $7.50-$10 per barrel of estimated reserves.

Also, you know that the company will drill out the most profitable holes first: the ones with the biggest deposits that can be drilled out for a given cost. Also, this will be measured by a rate-of-return calculation to the effect that for X dollars investment, you get back Y amount of oil and/or money for a rate of return of Z%.

Or, for a rate of return of Z% and a capital investment of X dollars, we will not drill a hole unless the yield is Y number of barrels.

In the downstream chemical world, that I am familiar with, current interest rates being what they are, Z% is about 13-15% return. How does this compare with what the exploration people consider an attractive investment? I think the refinery business must currently be using a 20% hurdle rate before doing a project. I'm just trying to get an idea of what Z is so we can estimate the size of X (field size).

Secondly, what consideration is being given to the possibility of a rising price? Under the current scenario, the company has to use some kind of forward pricing assumptions to calculate this ROR. If they believe that $50 oil will prevail for awhile, it makes a big difference compared to oil being $20-$25, which they seem to be saying in their public statements. In other words, can you tell us what the proverbial oil company finance guys are predicting for oil prices at a hypothetical company, not necessarily yours?

Thanks again, Azur, for joining in the conversation.
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Unread postby azur » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 17:48:46

Pup55,

Hope this helps.

First, there is no such thing as a drilling project. Drilling is step 1 of a field exploration and development project. If it stops after the drilling stage it has been a total failure (which happens).

The cost I mentioned of $10 million includes the drill rig time. That would be the total all-up cost of the well assuming around 45 to 50 days to drill the well.

The ROR you mention of 13 to 15% is typical, but the absolute value depends on the project risk level. Higher risk obviously requires higher ROR.

In my experience projects are still, until recently, being checked for sanction at $18 to $20 / bbl. After Saudi’s comments this week that might change now!

When a company takes a license on a block it is obliged to drill a certain number of exploration wells as part of the deal. It will run seismic survey to identify the best possible targets and drill a minimum number to satisfy its license agreement. Depending on the results, it may then go further and appraise any discovery, or drop its license and return the block after meeting the minimum well obligation.

The size of potential recoverable reserves that would make it worth drilling more wells would depend on how close to existing infrastructure the field is, and how difficult the environment is. Offshore, if the field was close by an existing installation which could be used as a host, 10 million bbls could be economic. If not, then 50 million recoverable would be considered marginal. But that was at the $20 hurdle. I guess we can drop that hurdle a notch or two now.
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Unread postby pup55 » Tue 01 Mar 2005, 22:22:54

Azur:

Thanks for your response on this.

My thinking was a little too simplistic, I can see.

What I was trying to do is understand the economic effects on what are considered "reserves". In your example below, it is clear that the decision to drill is made on an individual field basis.

There is a line of thinking to the effect that when oil prices go up, certain fields which were marginal during low prices become worth drilling, and therefore more likely to be a potential source of supply. However, I believe that the opposite could be true, for example, if Greenspan raises interest rates by 4% like was suggested the other day, the hurdle rate calculations will have to go up by that much in order to compensate the operators of the project for the higher interest rates. Higher hurdle rates may mean lower "drillable reserves".

The goal of all of this is to try to figure out from the literature how many of these "marginal fields" there are, so as to better estmate overall reserves, and get a better idea on whether the peak is truly nearby or awhile off.

I suppose that this is complicated to do unless you have detailed information on the portfolio of fields available. Too bad. Maybe with the data you have shared, we can go through Skrebowski's list of projects and get some ideas.

Anyway it would be interesting to know how many fields we are talking about, and what effect this would have on global supply.
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Unread postby azur » Wed 02 Mar 2005, 15:48:09

Pup,

What is true is that a decision to develop is made on a field by field basis. Each is very specific. All the factors are fed into the NPV model, including development costs, cost of finance, assumed oil price, taxes, production sharing contract obligations, etc etc.

If a field shows a good NPV on a robust set of assumptions, it will be put forward to the oil company Senior Management and Partners for funding. Each field competes against other prospects for funding until it reaches the top of the pile.

A good example is Clair, west of Shetlands in the Atlantic. It was discovered 27 years ago, and according to BP press releases has 5 billion bbls oil in place. It finally achieved first oil last week. Clair was delayed for many many years due to a very complex reservoir containing heavy oil, in a very hostile environment. Phase 1 is tapping ony 250 million bbls recoverable at a reported project cost of $1.2 billion. To this we must assume has to be added the cost of 17 appraisal wells drilled over the last 25 years. Even massive fields of this size can be unattractive at oil prices of $15-20/bbl.

Interest rates do have a big factor in the NPV calc, but less so than the price of oil assumed and the cost to develop the field.

What must be true is that fields that were marginal 5 years ago, even massive ones like Clair, are now becoming economic and will gradually be submitted for develpoment. How many of these there are, and how the total reserves compare against the 'still to be discovered' reserves in the ASPO model, requires a heavy bout of crystal ball gazing....
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Unread postby pup55 » Wed 02 Mar 2005, 15:59:54

Interesting.

Thanks again for your comments. Sounds like the computer modelers are finally in control.
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