http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/nyregion/13LI.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')atthew C. Cordaro, director of the C. W. Post/Long Island University Center for Management Analysis and a former Lilco executive, said that even projecting factors like the growth of China, there's still enough oil for 60 to 80 years, perhaps 100. We have almost unlimited amounts of energy around the earth, he said, when resources like coal (which can be converted to natural gas), hydrogen and uranium are taken into account. "It's very difficult for me to conceive of skyrocketing unaffordability given this trend," he said, "because you can produce electricity from a lot of sources of fuel and easily distribute it."
"Prices will increase - that you can count on, like death and taxes - but not disproportionately," Dr. Cordaro said. "Competitive forces will hold them in check."
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NY Times Story on Peak Oil Movie
by BabyPeanut » Sat 12 Mar 2005, 23:18:20
An exponential curve is not disproportionate.
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by TrueKaiser » Sat 12 Mar 2005, 23:54:41
it speaks ok of the film but white washs the issue a little.
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by BabyPeanut » Sun 13 Mar 2005, 00:02:13
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')avid Manning, senior vice president for corporate affairs at Keyspan and formerly Canada's deputy energy minister, also said economic forces will protect us from disaster. "What we're seeing is that the economy is continuing to run and grow even at $50 per barrel for oil," he said. "At that price we're bringing along new resources that would have been unaffordable, such as the oil sands of western Canada."
Wow, I feel so safe to know we have to use the bottom-of-the-barrel shit like tar sands to live now because the good oil costs too damn much. Those tar sands will fix everything since they use up natural gas to produce and pollute vast amounts of water while they are at it. But we can always get the gas from the coal and the oil from the tar and the food from the sewers and all that happy horseshit.
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by DomusAlbion » Sun 13 Mar 2005, 00:33:31
Thanks for the link BPN.
It's good to see that the ideas are starting to move into the "main stream" media. Most people who read the NY Times will ignore this article but it will reach a few thousand who will remember the idea and it may get them thinking about the problem.
It's good to see that the ideas are starting to move into the "main stream" media. Most people who read the NY Times will ignore this article but it will reach a few thousand who will remember the idea and it may get them thinking about the problem.
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-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
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by Taskforce_Unity » Sun 13 Mar 2005, 05:33:45
okay 0 credibility for me
We have almost unlimited amounts of energy around the earth, he said, when resources like coal (which can be converted to natural gas), HYDROGEN and uranium are taken into account.
wtf hydrogen? unlimited amounts around the earth? what's he talking about on the sun or something?
We have almost unlimited amounts of energy around the earth, he said, when resources like coal (which can be converted to natural gas), HYDROGEN and uranium are taken into account.
wtf hydrogen? unlimited amounts around the earth? what's he talking about on the sun or something?
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by BabyPeanut » Sun 13 Mar 2005, 13:45:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Taskforce_Unity', 'o')kay 0 credibility for me
We have almost unlimited amounts of energy around the earth, he said, when resources like coal (which can be converted to natural gas), HYDROGEN and uranium are taken into account.
wtf hydrogen? unlimited amounts around the earth? what's he talking about on the sun or something?
We have almost unlimited amounts of energy around the earth, he said, when resources like coal (which can be converted to natural gas), HYDROGEN and uranium are taken into account.
wtf hydrogen? unlimited amounts around the earth? what's he talking about on the sun or something?
You should have pointed out whose statement that was.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')atthew C. Cordaro, director of the C. W. Post/Long Island University Center for Management Analysis and a former Lilco executive, said that even projecting factors like the growth of China, there's still enough oil for 60 to 80 years, perhaps 100. We have almost unlimited amounts of energy around the earth, he said, when resources like coal (which can be converted to natural gas), hydrogen and uranium are taken into account. "It's very difficult for me to conceive of skyrocketing unaffordability given this trend," he said, "because you can produce electricity from a lot of sources of fuel and easily distribute it."
Hydrogen = energy around the earth? Where? In a well? From a tree?
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