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Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby actionreplay » Sat 20 Aug 2005, 18:20:20

a "greenie" is like a "genie", but they recycle the bottle afterwards. :)
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 20 Aug 2005, 18:54:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'g')reenie link send redefine 2 thumbs up
noun- slang term for an environmentalist. Often used to deride such people
That bloody tree-hugging greenie poofter!


Well that's weird. I'm an "environmentalist" tree hugging sort who believes in global climate change, but I'm also a bananaist, as is MonteQuest and several others here at PO.com. So how can we be greenies and believe in impending banana if this is true?:

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HECK, don't become a Greenie - besides, you can't - Greenies don't accept that Peak Oil will occur - Peak oil, y'see is all a "plant" put up by the Oil companies, so that "we" won't concentrate on Global warming, or so says the green groups (like Greenpeace).
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby JudoCow09 » Sat 20 Aug 2005, 21:15:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('whiteknight', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JudoCow09', 'Y')ou can find the definition for anything there, although it may not be correct.


Wow, that is incredibly useless...


It's more commonly used to look up slang words you wouldn't find in the dictionary. So technically they can't be wrong since they'ren't(can you do that?) real words.
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby wildsparrow » Sun 21 Aug 2005, 22:46:01

Yes, I did have a bit of a panic last week on this topic. For a little while I was totally ready to give up absolutely everything and move into an ecologically sound hippie commune. Wholeheartedly. And I was a bit depressed about it.

Now I've thought it through a bit more and talked it through with DH too, and I feel a bit more relaxed. The whole thing has given me a bit of a wakeup call though.

Vogue magazine really isn't important. I sent a whole pile of them to the thrift shop yesterday. Learning to grow my own vegies is important, I am still going to do that.

I am no longer going to chuck in all my hopes and dreams. Just alter them a bit and re-think the timescale of projects.

I may still start a dance school, just not go so gung-ho on making truckloads of money from corporate entertainment. That was going to be a longer-term project mainly to bring in income. The dance school will still bring in income and give me a lot of joy and could well last through a depression if I structure it right and make it a real benefit to the community, I'm also thinking that if things get bad I could accept payment 'in kind' to enable people to keep coming even if they don't have the cash.

I will still start a beauty business, but my ideas on capitalism have changed so radically that I now have no heart to build a huge empire. I don't think it's morally right. I really would rather just do it on a small scale and earn what my family needs rather than developing a huge marketing and development machine. I'm beginning to think the whole concept of marketing is rather sick so I'm not keen to go there right now.

But time may change those feelings too. I'm just taking it day by day right now.
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 21 Aug 2005, 23:11:53

I'm glad you're feeling more hopeful. :)
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby Ghog » Mon 22 Aug 2005, 00:05:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am no longer going to chuck in all my hopes and dreams. Just alter them a bit and re-think the timescale of projects.


I think this is the best way to deal with an unknown like PO. We don't truly know when it will occur and at what pace. Better to be aware and prepared, but not to the extent of destroying your happiness. Adjust your lifestyle to keep it versatile. If you can roll with the punches, you will be more likely to withstand anything PO could throw at you. Keep smiling.
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby fastbike » Mon 22 Aug 2005, 02:56:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '
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Greenies don't accept that Peak Oil will occur - Peak oil, y'see is all a "plant" put up by the Oil companies, so that "we" won't concentrate on Global warming, or so says the green groups (like Greenpeace).



Can you provide a source (a link would back up your assertion) - or are you talking out of your secondary oriifice again ?
Let's hope the next generation have a sense of humour ... our generation will need it.
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby Omnitir » Mon 22 Aug 2005, 03:18:58

No need to give up you hopes and dreams. There have been many times throughout history where people thought that the end of times where approaching, and of course they turned out to be wrong. We obviously have some tough times ahead, but the future is still uncertain and we just may get through this somehow.

I think the important thing to gain from PO knowledge, rather then the certainty of doom is the change of outlook. Hopefully PO will waken people to the truth about our current situation, and realise that over consumerism is unsustainable, and an idiotic paradigm. Indeed, we all need to become greenies.

As far as changing your pre PO aware ambitions, think of it this way: this is possibly the peak of human civilisation, the party is at it’s strongest. Sure it’s time to realise that things will soon change and the party will soon be over, but is it wise to waste the opportunity of living in possibly the grandest period of human civilisation, and leave the party early?

Make the most of life while it’s good, because it’s looking like there will be plenty of the tough times ahead. Just be aware that the party is indeed coming to an end.
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Re: Now I seem to be turning into a Greenie

Unread postby FairMaiden » Mon 22 Aug 2005, 18:30:29

I actually work for an affliated charity to Greenpeace and I can honestly say no one here believes that for a second. All my coworkers feel (I've conducted a verbal poll) that peak oil exists but they can't do anything about it. If ppl won't alter their lifestyle for soldiers dying in the Middle East, they doubt they will alter it for peak oil (when you can find "experts" claiming we have lots of oil). I'm pretty much the only one "concerned" about it.

Global warming could actually be caused by polar reversal. But having written that, think about the fact that our planet is a closed system. We wouldn't live in our garages with our vehicles running - but we are living on this planet with many vehicles running. It only makes sense that we are damaging our air supply.
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