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Never was hope.

Unread postby jupiter422 » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 20:15:54

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name ... e&sid=1062

Don't flame me if you think the source is funky. Just thought a few people would get some use from this. I think 2006 is going to be a sh*tty year .
I was born in 1982 .Would it be safe to say that I was born into the last 25 years of civilizations big binge of a party. Now I'm an adult , I get to deal with this mess. Yippeee. Growing up during all the advances was awesome , but now begins the decline.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby holmes » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 20:19:28

Yes we wont have many secure years but let me sing a song for u friend,
about the years gone by...

I had a friend was a big baseball player
Back in high school
He could throw that speedball by you
Make you look like a fool boy
Saw him the other night at this roadside bar
I was walking in, he was walking out
We went back inside sat down had a few drinks
But all he kept talking about was

Chorus:
Glory days well they’ll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl’s eye
Glory days, glory days

Well there’s a girl that lives up the block
Back in school she could turn all the boy’s heads
Sometimes on a friday I’ll stop by
And have a few drinks after she put her kids to bed
Her and her husband bobby well they split up
I guess it’s two years gone by now
We just sit around talking about the old times,
She says when she feels like crying
She starts laughing thinking about

Chorus

My old man worked 20 years on the line
And they let him go
Now everywhere he goes out looking for work
They just tell him that he’s too old
I was 9 nine years old and he was working at the
Metuchen ford plant assembly line
Now he just sits on a stool down at the legion hall
But I can tell what’s on his mind

Glory days yeah goin back
Glory days aw he ain’t never had
Glory days, glory days

Now I think I’m going down to the well tonight
And I’m going to drink till I get my fill
And I hope when I get old I don’t sit around thinking about it
But I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
A little of the glory of, well time slips away
And leaves you with nothing mister but
Boring stories of glory days

Chorus (repeat twice)

Assorted all rights, oh yeahs, come on nows, hoots, etc til fade
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby PrairieMule » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 20:51:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiter422', 'h')ttp://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062

Don't flame me if you think the source is funky. Just thought a few people would get some use from this. I think 2006 is going to be a sh*tty year .
I was born in 1982 .Would it be safe to say that I was born into the last 25 years of civilizations big binge of a party. Now I'm an adult , I get to deal with this mess. Yippeee. Growing up during all the advances was awesome , but now begins the decline.


Yea, just as shitty as 1995, remember how bad things got in 1995? Well that's I turned 25. Something about the milestone of turning 25. Up to the it was drinking beer, getting laid, and going to class. 25 sucked for me too I think that's when adulthood kicks in. I'ts a undenialble funk.Take this big brotherly advice: this too shall pass.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby eastbay » Tue 03 Jan 2006, 21:46:14

[b]this too shall pass.[b]

PrairieMule that's some excellent advice... let's just hope it doesn't pass like a great big comet through the Pacific Ocean.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 02:45:56

I don't think growing old is such a big deal. Everyone grows old and there's nothing they can do to stop it. I look forward to it, as opposed to dread it. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed hoping I can finish what I have planned before the ramifications of peak oil kick in, whenever that may be and however serious or mild the effects will be.

Often times, when people reminiscience about the 'glory days', they often regret not doing certain things or making certain decisions. But little does one realize that the individual person only has so much control over their surroundings, and that usually their surrundings are controlling them. It's not worth moping over something you don't have control over, but here people are, everwhere you go, doing just that, wishing they were a teenager again, wishing they went to college, wishing they had the American Dream, failing to realize the whole time what they do have now and what they can still attain and accomplish. People are fickle things, failing to realize how little control they have, while also failing to know what things they can control and how to control them. The solution? A combination of time, determination, and thought. Without either, a person's outlook has little hope of changing.

But I guess I'm not very typical. I'm 20 and I don't frequently get laid or get drunk or get stoned, although that makes these things much more enjoyable when they do occur given their relative rarity. But coming to rely on these things, as opposed to reflecting upon your current state, may be a bit dangerous. Such a practice will lead to longing for the glory days of the past, all the while ignoring the good things that could be staring you in the face. Repeat the cycle when someone realizes what they've lost when they lose it...
The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby Doly » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 06:27:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', '
')But I guess I'm not very typical. I'm 20 and I don't frequently get laid or get drunk or get stoned.


That isn't very atypical in my books. It's just that the people that do those things scream much louder than those who don't.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby jupiter422 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 12:56:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', 'I') don't think growing old is such a big deal. Everyone grows old and there's nothing they can do to stop it. I look forward to it, as opposed to dread it. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed hoping I can finish what I have planned before the ramifications of peak oil kick in, whenever that may be and however serious or mild the effects will be.

Often times, when people reminiscience about the 'glory days', they often regret not doing certain things or making certain decisions. But little does one realize that the individual person only has so much control over their surroundings, and that usually their surrundings are controlling them. It's not worth moping over something you don't have control over, but here people are, everwhere you go, doing just that, wishing they were a teenager again, wishing they went to college, wishing they had the American Dream, failing to realize the whole time what they do have now and what they can still attain and accomplish. People are fickle things, failing to realize how little control they have, while also failing to know what things they can control and how to control them. The solution? A combination of time, determination, and thought. Without either, a person's outlook has little hope of changing.

But I guess I'm not very typical. I'm 20 and I don't frequently get laid or get drunk or get stoned, although that makes these things much more enjoyable when they do occur given their relative rarity. But coming to rely on these things, as opposed to reflecting upon your current state, may be a bit dangerous. Such a practice will lead to longing for the glory days of the past, all the while ignoring the good things that could be staring you in the face. Repeat the cycle when someone realizes what they've lost when they lose it...




I am 23 and did not start this post because I was feeling old.Actually I know that i am very ,very, young and very capable of many things .when the shtf I will be a young strong man .

If you checked the link I posted above , then read http://cyclone696.blogspot.com/2005/11/ ... ne-of.html this blog and parts 2-5. I actually recommend the daily posts also. Then research until your brain hurts.you will then say to your self ,"there never was hope." Our generation got the last drop of the bottle , Now the paty is over. I'm 23 facing world demolitian. yipppeeee
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby gnm » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 13:06:07

I wouldn't worry to much about so called fema-camps. In a scenario of collapsing economy, depleting energy and resources, I'll be surprised if "they" can answer the phones in 15 years, much less round up all the citizenry for some nefarious reason. Be more afraid of how your neighbors will behave when their gubbmint cheese ration gets cut again.

If you think its bad for you consider a 1 year old child right now... :( :( :(

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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby jupiter422 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 13:17:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'I') wouldn't worry to much about so called fema-camps. In a scenario of collapsing economy, depleting energy and resources, I'll be surprised if "they" can answer the phones in 15 years, much less round up all the citizenry for some nefarious reason. Be more afraid of how your neighbors will behave when their gubbmint cheese ration gets cut again.

If you think its bad for you consider a 1 year old child right now... :( :( :(

-G


I have a 16 month old daughter... This is another reason my dommerosity level is elevated.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby holmes » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 13:22:13

I am 36 and we will be on the cusp. The ones that are really bunk are the babies being produced in the past.
If your 10 or younger just hope u have alot of real world on ground skills and huge amounts of cash to buy basic neccesities. Those neccessities will be expensive.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby holmes » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 13:25:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiter422', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'I') wouldn't worry to much about so called fema-camps. In a scenario of collapsing economy, depleting energy and resources, I'll be surprised if "they" can answer the phones in 15 years, much less round up all the citizenry for some nefarious reason. Be more afraid of how your neighbors will behave when their gubbmint cheese ration gets cut again.

If you think its bad for you consider a 1 year old child right now... :( :( :(

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I have a 16 month old daughter... This is another reason my dommerosity level is elevated.


I am sorry i did not mean to be mean. That will be a tough one, sadly. Teach her well and hope she does not get addicted to the malls and brittany spears. and since this is basically what will be the dominant landscape of the US(malls and sprawl) it will be very difficult. Smash the TV now, friend. Give her a fighting chance at least. Keep her eaway form as much plastic as possible also.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 14:07:27

Holmes,

I hit 36 in april and have to 2 daughters. Last weekend I took the 4 1/2 yr old to the family ranch with me. She really digs the cows, trees,deer, and her PawPaw's John Deere tractor. In fact she digs it as much as the does Barbie and the Disney Channel.

Next March when my dad gets back from Nigeria we will plant watermellons, tomatos and carrots on the 1/4 acre plot we fenced last weekend. When he asked if she wanted to be a farmer she stated yes and he responded that that was the correct answer.

30 years ago my redneck neighbor had a bumper sticker on his Blazer that stated "Take your boy Hunting instead of hunting for your Boy". Still rings true today. Every day I am astonished how kids soak up stimuli, any stimuli. It's our job to make sure we balance it all out.

I just can't comprehend how would say they don't want to have a kid. My kids magnify my drive and gumption.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby AmericanEmpire » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 15:52:57

I am thankful that I don't have any kids since learning about peak oil. I can't imagine bringing any more mouths to feed into this shitty world humans have created.

It breaks my heart when I go out somewhere in public and see little children know that they don't have a future and the parents have no clue what is comming. They are all gonna be like the starving African babies in a few years.

As far as peak oil is concerned I just don't really give a damn about it anymore. Surviving to live a life of misery for the rest of my existence will not be worth it. When it all starts to come tumbling down it'll be my time to exit this life.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby jupiter422 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 15:58:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AmericanEmpire', 'I') am thankful that I don't have any kids since learning about peak oil. I can't imagine bringing any more mouths to feed into this shitty world humans have created.

It breaks my heart when I go out somewhere in public and see little children know that they don't have a future and the parents have no clue what is comming. They are all gonna be like the starving African babies in a few years.

As far as peak oil is concerned I just don't really give a damn about it anymore. Surviving to live a life of misery for the rest of my existence will not be worth it. When it all starts to come tumbling down it'll be my time to exit this life.



so are you talking suicide or do you mean going out guns blazing????
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby jupiter422 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 16:30:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiter422', 'h')ttp://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062

Don't flame me if you think the source is funky. Just thought a few people would get some use from this. I think 2006 is going to be a sh*tty year .
I was born in 1982 .Would it be safe to say that I was born into the last 25 years of civilizations big binge of a party. Now I'm an adult , I get to deal with this mess. Yippeee. Growing up during all the advances was awesome , but now begins the decline.


Yea, just as shitty as 1995, remember how bad things got in 1995? Well that's I turned 25. Something about the milestone of turning 25. Up to the it was drinking beer, getting laid, and going to class. 25 sucked for me too I think that's when adulthood kicks in. I'ts a undenialble funk.Take this big brotherly advice: this too shall pass.


no offense ,but I turn 24 in July I said that it would be a safe assesment to say that I was born into the last 25 years of the civilzations 100 year binge . That being said I'm not excited much about life after 25 anymore than I am about being 23 and not 19.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby gnm » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 16:51:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AmericanEmpire', 'I') am thankful that I don't have any kids since learning about peak oil. I can't imagine bringing any more mouths to feed into this shitty world humans have created.

It breaks my heart when I go out somewhere in public and see little children know that they don't have a future and the parents have no clue what is comming. They are all gonna be like the starving African babies in a few years.

As far as peak oil is concerned I just don't really give a damn about it anymore. Surviving to live a life of misery for the rest of my existence will not be worth it. When it all starts to come tumbling down it'll be my time to exit this life.


YOU! Outta the gene pool!

I hardly think its going to be that bad! But you never know - people get real stupid when they are faced with change.

BTW can my kids have your stuff? We can do it nice or maybe in 15 years my heavily armed 20 year old son can just take it from your withered grip....
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 17:09:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')I hardly think its going to be that bad! But you never know - people get real stupid when they are faced with change.

BTW can my kids have your stuff? We can do it nice or maybe in 15 years my heavily armed 20 year old son can just take it from your withered grip....
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 17:21:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AmericanEmpire', 'I') am thankful that I don't have any kids since learning about peak oil. I can't imagine bringing any more mouths to feed into this shitty world humans have created.

It breaks my heart when I go out somewhere in public and see little children know that they don't have a future and the parents have no clue what is comming. They are all gonna be like the starving African babies in a few years.

As far as peak oil is concerned I just don't really give a damn about it anymore. Surviving to live a life of misery for the rest of my existence will not be worth it. When it all starts to come tumbling down it'll be my time to exit this life.


I don't see kids that way. I see the next Teddy Roosevelt, Abe Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, future Pioneers, and solutions to the messes they inherit. All great people start out as little children. All of them are clean slates. True not all could be saved If a nuke struck, but with our awareness we have the ability to adapt we could take care of our own and maybe 1 or 2 of someone elses.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby AmericanEmpire » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 21:42:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hatever happened to damienjasper? you don't suppose. . .


Didn't he say he was gonna off himself after telling his folks why over the holidays?

One has to wonder if he is still part of the living world or if he's already gone over to the other side.
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Re: Never was hope.

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 00:44:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') am 36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'I') hit 36 in april

I'm 36 too.

Us 36 year olds need to stick together (atleast until we turn 37).
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