[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')And basically I'm real damn sick of them taking my money.


-G

[foodnotlawns]

Corporate welfare is worse than poor-fare, IMHO. It definitely distorts the market and turns the plutocrat class into the kleptocrat class. It's outright stealing of the rich from the poor.

The fat cats use non-Whites for cheap labor and to keep society disordered. Multiculturalism is their latest weapon against ordinary folks. It's very strange that Leftists support it, but I think that Leftists are very warped and sick human beings.

An all White country would be able to force national socialist democracy -- strong trade unions, cradle to grave welfare state, sensible policies.

Multicultism keeps the plutocrat class very strong. Also, multicultism is a favorite fetish of the dominant ethnic/religious group of the plutocrat class.

[Trindelm]

Diversity is not a problem. Diversity is as American as Pizza, Tandoori wraps or General Gao's Chicken. Many great American success stories contain people from other countries who faced and withstood against all odds to make somethingof themselves be it a decent steady job or president of a Fortune 500 company. Such qualities should be welcomed and encouraged.

Multiculturalism is a problem not Diversity. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs here. At face value it sounds great, accept all people for what they are and do not judge. But what it does is balkanize people into various groups and levels in the social strata.
Harmonization is key, new concepts and are brought in to stir things up but eventually settle down thus making the larger population stronger and hence more adaptable.
I would use assimilate but instead many people especially the ultra left think of this as tactics adopted from the Borg.

[lorenzo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'I')'m going to have to disagree with you Lorenzo, it generally isn't white vs. black shootings in those tough areas. Sadly the single biggest threat to a young black man in the urban ghettos is another of the same. I think it has little to do with race and everything to do with poverty really.

-G

[Doly]

Racist outbreaks happened in the seventies and they are likely to happen again. It's the sad reality.

[shakespear1]

Few remember or know how those riots looked. Few probable know what was going on during them.

[hoplite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leaf', '.').. People live in comfy land and comfy land isnt going to last much longer.
10 years post peak oil...many silly notions will fall by the way!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ew remember or know how those riots looked. Few probable know what was going on during them

[Falstaff]

Wooot; that pretty much settles it...

Nothing says hypocrite better than liberals who put their children in private school (after they realize what "diversity really means)...

[trespam]

Some of you folks are so damn stupid and ignorant sometimes. Not a word about slavery. Not a word about tradition. Not a word about a race pulled up from its family and cultural roots, sold like property, worked to the bone, and thrown away like garbage. Not a word about the importance of family traditions and the values that are passed down through families. And the problems that will develop when those values are completely emasculated and gutted by ripping the communities apart and throwing what remains of the voyages onto plantations to work as slaves.

It is not just poverty. If you believe at all in traditions, in cultural and family traditions, if you believe at all in nurture as well as nature, then you will have to admit that ripping apart a people may leave scars. Excuses? Sometimes it will be used as excuses. But scars all the same. And they take time to heal.

The idiotic racists who post their garbage should be banned from this site. Remember: an open forum will degrade to the lowest common denominator in many cases. We have found it. The idiot from the Ukraine and his supporters.

[Kramerchi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falstaff', 'W')ooot; that pretty much settles it...

Nothing says hypocrite better than liberals who put their children in private school (after they realize what "diversity really means)...

[Gil-Galad]

Beg to disagree, one of the best places will be South Africa, wonderful climate in the area around Cape Town, you can grow anything. The population of Sub Saharan Africa will shortly go into decline due to the AIDs epidemic which, I believe is actually worse than we are being told.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gil-Galad', 'B')eg to disagree, one of the best places will be South Africa, wonderful climate in the area around Cape Town, you can grow anything. The population of Sub Saharan Africa will shortly go into decline due to the AIDs epidemic which, I believe is actually worse than we are being told.

[hoplite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gil-Galad', '.') The population of Sub Saharan Africa will shortly go into decline due to the AIDs epidemic which, I believe is actually worse than we are being told.

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orz', 'N')ice job ignoring the economics. Race, poverty and crime go hand in hand. A poor person from a poor, crime-ridden neighborhood probably ain't going to do too well in school and get the grades and money to move up. Not too many blacks get a chance to be raised in suburbia like whites or asians, and the few I've met wouldn't pocket gum from a convenience store. You find a statistic saying middle class blacks commit more felonies than middle class whites and then we'll start talking about race.

The case you're making is to not be in any city that is full of poor people, which is pretty obvious.

And considering you're european, I don't even see why you should even care.

[spudbuddy]

I wonder,
How good with numbers can a liberal be?
As Mr. Dylan once said, You're gonna have to serve somebody....
And certain people somewhere do quite well dividing and conquering.
Let us all bicker and bitch -
and ponder history a little bit.
Ironic isn't it? That so many famous place names bear aboriginal words (whose meanings have frittered away.)
Chicago, Toronto, Ontario, Pontiac, Minnesota, Ohio,
while a tiny little hamlet in eastern Iowa says it best: Lost Nation.
That's right.

Ponder for a bit, the sum total of money that has been made from the marriage of indigenous black culture with a more or less "Americanized" melt, soldered into what we now know as: Rock&Roll, Jazz, Blues, R&B, Rap, Hip Hop,
modern dance...
The point is, the entire history of modern western music (popular world-wide) is based on what the griots first handed down in West Africa long before Turtle Island became America, and gradually evolved a century ago into the roots of sound and rhythm (long before Motown was thought of) that would heat up adolescent hormones in astonishing ways.

This is all old news.
What is somewhat newer - is the simple fact that a culture has been founded on thievery. (the understanding of that event is what I speak of.)

When simple people lose sight of this fact (or never gained cognizance to begin with) then they fail to understand the deepest rages and resentments that boil beneath the surface.
American modernity has been a sort of armistice, rather a truce, really, for some time now.
The American Dream Machine dictated that a paltry few would, and could cash in on the corporate buyout, while the vast majority remained much as they have always been.

What does all this have to do with poverty, despair, hopelessness, and especially crime?
Go ask the streetkids in the cities of Bangladesh. Find a translator. Pay attention to what they say. It's all the same shit.

How, in 2006, can one man tell another that somehow the color of his skin will dictate his morality, his spirituality, his obedience, his fidelity, his very dreams?
What have we learned, at all?
Is a Jew less crime-prone for his Jewishness?
Why is it that we just know in our bones that in the history of this sad little planet, an Asian or European was never going to come up with, all on his own, the soul-lifting release of a simple drum-beat? (Tibetan bells notwithstanding.)

Is a black man a better man for dancing through twelve bars on silver strings, or propelling horsehide from a hickory Louisville slugger 500 feet over the left field wall? Of course not. That's just how he earns his living.
And although those men would declare themselves the lucky few, they never forget that there are millions more like them who will never have that opportunity - and not for lack of ability, desire, forebearance, discipline, or anything else...not even education.

Numbers - do not prove that one group of people are better than others.
All they prove is whatever agenda the number-cruncher has at the moment.

[dissimulo]

Deleted - didn't realize I was responding to such an old post. It seemed kind of silly to resurrect it.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'N')o, the racist remarks are highly interesting.

When these cities (ghettos) "erupt", the problem is that the White Man panicks, and takes out his war guns, while the black man does the same. And they start shooting each other. This is the history of the U.S. in a nutshell.

When ghettos like those around Paris erupt, you only see symbolic action, no guns (notwithstanding a few exceptions).

That's the big difference. The US is a racist society with guns. Which is of course much more troubling than having a racist society without guns.

[threadbear]

Gosh Leaf, Maybe the whites in West Virginia are all real nice to each other because they're all related. A Ukrainian hillbilly like yourself, no doubt knows what I mean. Deedle dee dum dee dum dee dum dee. Squeal like pig.