[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')e're heavily armed and very dangerous. We have been throughout our history, and we're more so every day. That is never going to change. How you people think it could is beyond me.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'E')nglishmen once owned weapons. Now only their criminals do.
Austrailians once owned weapons. Now only their criminals do.
Germans once owned weapons. Now only their criminals do.

[Anthrobus]

what i propose before a gun can be aquired:

Before the gun is handed over, the customer has to read a dozend books of world literature which he can choose from a given list (The list is devised by a board of peace nobel laureates; Additional rules: Minimal 5.000 pages altogether and Grimmelshausen "simplicius simplicissimus" as well as Lem "Solaris" are a must). After the customer has read all the literature he has to pass a little test about the content (20 Questions about each volume and a written excerpt of his favourite one).

If the poor sod then still demands his gun, he may have cheated in the above procedure and has to pass it again.

Sorry guys, can't resist annoying you. Just dont take it too serious ...

[Laughs_Last]

So since I have read a thousand books, then it's okay for me to own a dozen guns, right?

In trade for me reading your hippie books, your assigned reading is On Democracy in America, by Toqueville from the early 1800's. My ancestors were free men, as will be my descendants. (Granted, only the live ones.)

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'T')he situation here was irretrievable many decades ago

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anthrobus', 'B')efore the gun is handed over, the customer has to read a dozend books of world literature

[bshirt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ALBY', '
')
I have found over the years that modern day so-called liberals (who bear little resemblance intellectually to their claimed classical liberal ancestors) lack the courage of their convictions. There is no principle so dear that they are willing to personally suffer for, let alone die for. Government, blessed government, is their idol. If they are aggrieved, oppressed, or merely imagine that they are oppressed, it is to government that they turn. There hasn't been a liberal willing to die for his principles since the Civil Rights movement. They are more than willing to dispatch the men and women of government to die in their place, however. But, and I think this is more dangerous to the country, they also extrapolate from their own cowardice and believe that all people (even those who disagree with them) will, in the end, do what they're told by Government.

[ALBY]

the author is mike vanderboeh

i apologize if this was not clear in my post.

i wish i could take credit for that piece.

molon labe.


ps

i *heart* smallpoxgirl. who else would like to see her post a pic of herself with her assault file ???

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'I')f you think the US cannot make it illegal for citizens to own firearms, you are mistaken and quite naive.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')hy would they even try?

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')hy would they even try?

[TommyJefferson]

> "How are they going to do anything at all about that?"

http://www.atf.treas.gov

> "Why would they even try?"

[Roy]

I don't know if anyone here caught Charles Schumer (D) NY, on the O'reilly show a couple of weeks ago.

He was pimping his new legislation: registration of all firearms in the US, for our safety of course. AFter all, he said, we register all cars right?.

Ahem, herr Schumer, I don't seem to recall the right to own a car as being guaranteed by the Constitution. Maybe someone could correct me if I'm wrong.

I can see it now:

All citizens must report all firearms in possession to local authorities along with serial numbers, name, address, social security number etc. A few scares later, they will say that all privately owned firearms must be turned into for our safety, and that failure to do so is a felony and all violators are subject to full asset forfeiture.

So I sit there listening to this asshat, and I'm waiting for O'reilly (who I can't stand either) unload on this dude like a battleship gun.

Imagine my consternation when he glibly agreed with said liberal asshat, and then added that anyone who would oppose such legislation had to be "certifiably insane".

I was ready to smash my TV into a million pieces upon that putrescent offering from the "bastion of conservatism", that slayer of secular-progressivism, Bill O'reilly.

Alby, that was a great letter you posted. I especially liked the part where the author questioned a gun-grabber about coming to take his guns personally.

Excellent.

[bshirt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')he mentality of the politician is not that different from the school yard bully. The ultimate drive is to be powerful and control others while making everyone else feel weak and powerless. That ultimate drive is inconsistent with an armed populace. The reason an armed populace is an important thing is the same reason that the politicians will ultimately try to ban them. As Mao said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Politicians want all the power, so of necessity they have to have all the guns.

[ALBY]

I've given up arguing with the sheeple about guns.

I have no criminal record, not even a parking ticket. I pay more in taxes than most sheeple earn in a year. I am a father or 3, and all my kids are smart, well behaved and charming. there is not ONE illegal thing in my house or gizzun locker.

Simply put, I am a huge net gain for society. and to be honest, i like my life.

But i'm never disarming. never. and if i'm attacked for it, you bettter believe i'm bringing the biggest can of whup ass i can lug with me. i pray that day never comes. but if it does, i will water the tree of liberty. i will drench that fuker with extreme prejudice.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'h')ttp://www.atf.treas.gov

[Sheb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'h')ttp://www.atf.treas.gov

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'S')o, all of the above is cool with you?

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '.')..not a single one of the things on their list actually existed.

[Daculling]

Whoa check this out...

NYTimes

The Justice Department proposed legislation on Thursday that would give the attorney general discretion to bar terrorism suspects from buying firearms, seeking to close a gap in federal gun laws.

So I have committed no crime... but I can't have a gun because the government is already watching me... no fly list, etc. from which there is no recourse.

The measure, which was introduced by Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey

Power play! If the repugs turn their backs they are soft on terror. But at the same time the democraps are endorsing a police state... what a world we live in.