[Kingcoal]

Becoming PO aware has helped me redefine my idea of intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to see the forest through the trees and to adapt quickly. That requires a disciplined open mindedness, the ability to get up to speed quickly and most importantly, the ability to think objectively about everything - nothing is sacred. Most people, educated or not, do not have those skills.

At the beginning of the Iraq war, I was often alone at work, being against it. I know a lot of "intelligent" people, with college degrees who have a naive, "go with the program" attitude. They are sheep and will go along with the flock where ever it is going - even off a cliff. Now that's not very intelligent, in fact, it's just downright stupid. People like that should be kept out of management positions at all costs. Unfortunately, we have a presidential administration and about have the country's voters who are, well, stupid.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') have a theory about a person's predisposition to believe in doom scenarios, and it has to do with the years of a person's life between ages 5 and 10, along with the age of the parents.
My theory is that the economic climate during the time period between ages 5 and 10 will have about a 66% determinant effect on one's predisposition to believe in doom as an adult, and the remaining 33% is determined by the economic climate during the parents' childhood.
For me, the doom stars are in almost perfect alignment.
I was age 5-10 in 1975-1980, a truly depressing and doomalicious period.

[DomusAlbion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'M')y theory is that the economic climate during the time period between ages 5 and 10 will have about a 66% determinant effect on one's predisposition to believe in doom as an adult, and the remaining 33% is determined by the economic climate during the parents' childhood.

[Cashmere]

Lesbians interested in PO . . .

Hmm.

This definitely gives me ideas for my bunker . . .

[Cashmere]

On a serious note,

some link to some site says 64% of gamers on line are women?

Hah.

If you believe that, check out the thread on using water for fuel.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') have a theory about a person's predisposition to believe in doom scenarios, and it has to do with the years of a person's life between ages 5 and 10, along with the age of the parents.
My theory is that the economic climate during the time period between ages 5 and 10 will have about a 66% determinant effect on one's predisposition to believe in doom as an adult, and the remaining 33% is determined by the economic climate during the parents' childhood.
For me, the doom stars are in almost perfect alignment.
I was age 5-10 in 1975-1980, a truly depressing and doomalicious period.

[AlwaysThere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlwaysThere', 'I') guess I have a question: Do we live in a happy society? 40% of the adult population is consuming and/or addicted to some form of drug, that does not seem to happy to me. A good old fashion depression will be good for the people in this country.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'O')n a serious note, some link to some site says 64% of gamers on line are women? Hah.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'L')ike how old?
Does calling myself BigTex make you visualize a large person?

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', 'A')nd I pictured you in your fifties. Most younger guys aren't into Elvis as much as you seem to be.
Sorry about that ...

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', ' ')BTW, your age?

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'O')n a serious note, some link to some site says 64% of gamers on line are women? Hah.
You don't believe it? Prove it wrong.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'J')ohn Lennon getting killed didn't register with me that much. I don't know why.

[Lumpy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'J')ohn Lennon getting killed didn't register with me that much. I don't know why.

[RedStateGreen]

Cashmere,

Matt's original assertion was that most women weren't online at all. That gamer article I just threw in there, since I'm a gamer.

Most of my friends are gamers too, and believe me, there are a lot of women gamers out there, and most of those I know play way more than 20 hours a week. (I used to but something called peak oil got in the way... )

A lot of them won't come out and say they're women, mainly because of shitty attitudes/stalking from men.

[dunewalker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlwaysThere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dunewalker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlwaysThere', 'L')iving conservatively is what we (as a collective nation), should do anyway. Yes Walmart and Macdonalds will suffer, but the only way we are going to reposition our society (If it is even possible) is to take our lumps and start investing in our future as opposed to our immediate gratification.

[RuncornBridge]

Hi all, my first post here.
I'm female and have been mentally preparing for the worst for years (know something's going to happen) then discovered PO last year. My husband (we're both early fifties) is also very intelligent but refuses to acknowledge that there's a problem that science can't fix and won't talk about it.
So I've started a tiny veggie patch in my tiny garden, though he can't understand why I bother, "why not just go to the shop". I've got a secret hoard of candles and parrafin (kerosene) for my 'decorative' oil lamps, BUT... he's happy for me to stock up on food etc., as even he can see the prices shooting up.
Yes it's hard carrying on as if all's well when I know the sky's about to fall in on us, making preps but hiding the real reason..I'm about to plant some Amaranth seeds and any other edible flowers I can find as they 'look very pretty' in the garden. So it's a burden but I do think the penny will drop eventually, for him and everyone else and when it does.....

[BigTex]

Welcome to the site!

Glad you finally made it.

Enjoy.

[Cog]

At the risk of veering this topic back to hope_full's question.

Discussing doom all the time with your spouse is a depressing way to go. When I started down the survivalism road about a year ago(unrelated to peak oil), I met some resistance from my wife about it. Her response was usually the following

"the grocery store is always open, the government will come up with an answer, people have been preaching doom for the past 30 years"

The way I went about survival preps was to include her into things she found interesting to do. She likes yard sales and is a very frugal person by nature. I used that nature to have her look for items that enhanced our self-reliance. Since she does most of the grocery shopping, she saw the rising food prices and saw how buying in bulk regardless of future events just made financial sense.

When I became PO aware about two weeks ago, I discussed the ramifications with her and much to my surprise, she gets it. She has a scientific bent to her as I do, so I used that to make a convincing case for extending our preps to a longer period of time.

But here is the deal. We don't sit around discussing doom and I don't hit her with it everyday. It is depressing to think about to be honest. So use whatever strengths your husband has to your advantage. As long as he doesn't prevent you from prepping, he doesn't have to believe in doomer theory. Soon enough he will see it in action. Your husband can be a help to you. You just have to figure out what motivates him and use that motivation to enhance your survival.

[Ferretlover]

Welcome RuncornBridge. As you can see, you are not alone in the PO boat. There are many here who understand your situation since it is so similar to our own.
Please read the different forums and threads, and browse the archives, too. Please ask questions when the need arises. We even have a Psychology forum when you feel you have to just scream "AARRGGHH!"

Oh, and nicely put, Cog.