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Meet the new supercops

Unread postby mattduke » Fri 07 Dec 2007, 13:05:08

Keep in mind that you are more likely to die from your bathtub than a terrorist, and being a farmer is much more dangerous than being a policeman.

"A stone's throw down the sidewalk, Abad Nieves watches the scene unfold. Nieves is a detective with the Intelligence Division of the New York Police Department (NYPD). Casually clad in slacks and a black leather jacket, he monitors the response of people loitering in the area. Is anyone making notes or videotaping? Does anyone seem especially startled by the out-of-the-blue appearance of a heavily armed NYPD squad?

On this day, Nieves doesn't see anything overly suspicious, but he is pleased that the deployment created a strong impression. Known as a Hercules team, it makes multiple appearances around the city each day. The locations are chosen either in response to specific intelligence or simply to provide a show of force at high-profile sites.

"Clearly, New York is way in front on this," says Brian Michael Jenkins, a terrorism expert with the Rand Corp. "As the threat gets more diffused, we are going to have less of the kind of intelligence that can be picked up by the feds. We are dealing now with threats that are deliberately operating under the radar. Therefore, we have to aim the radar lower, to the local level."

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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby MacG » Fri 07 Dec 2007, 13:28:32

For curbing "terrorism" it seems as a really stupid idea, but for curbing jobless numbers it might be a last-ditch effort to keep people with jobs. Paying them with newly issued money. I gather that "security" payrolls have increased rather dramatically in recent years.
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby gnm » Fri 07 Dec 2007, 13:32:03

Wow what a sickening propaganda piece.

I always wonder what kind of psychological dysfunction creates people like this. Control freak neo military wankers. These aren't cops... They are Gestapo.

They have been training these guys to see the public as the enemy for a long time. Looks like its starting to sink in.

Back to your designated free speech cages, citizens!

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(hmmm judging from the comments on that article many agree with my assessment)
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 08 Dec 2007, 00:24:02

This will turn and bite them on the ass. They will just create their own homegrown terrorists. You put an army into a society and you will attract/create a war.

Some young yahoos, indoctinated in their father's hatred and mistrust of the government could see this as an opportunity to fight back. They now have a 'military' target.

And TPTB will take any attack as justification of their actions instead of hanging their heads in shame for what they've incited.
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby basil_hayden » Sat 08 Dec 2007, 00:27:03

They can't stop drugs or Mexicans from infiltrating the country but they think they can stop terrorists.

Completely laughable.
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby Denny » Sun 09 Dec 2007, 00:00:07

"Proactive policing".. seems ominous.

Will he next thing be screening people based on their racial, personality and intelligence characteristics?

How about jailing people who carry the most criminal risk, so society can be safer?
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sun 09 Dec 2007, 00:03:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '"')Proactive policing".. seems ominous.

Will he next thing be screening people based on their racial, personality and intelligence characteristics?

How about jailing people who carry the most criminal risk, so society can be safer?


Glad I live in bum fuck nowhere, we don't normally have to deal with the kind of Nazi Shit
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sun 09 Dec 2007, 01:04:43

Machine gun supercops are nothing compared to NYPD that patrol the subway platforms with vicious canines so strong sometimes the cops have a hard time holding the leash back. Its a sight seeing these dogs barking and running down a crowded train station on their hind legs no less dragging their cops along.

I'm glad I don't live in NYC anymore. :-D
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Re: Meet the new supercops

Unread postby Angry_Chimp » Sun 09 Dec 2007, 01:17:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'K')eep in mind that you are more likely to die from your bathtub than a terrorist, and being a farmer is much more dangerous than being a policeman.

"A stone's throw down the sidewalk, Abad Nieves watches the scene unfold. Nieves is a detective with the Intelligence Division of the New York Police Department (NYPD). Casually clad in slacks and a black leather jacket, he monitors the response of people loitering in the area. Is anyone making notes or videotaping? Does anyone seem especially startled by the out-of-the-blue appearance of a heavily armed NYPD squad?

On this day, Nieves doesn't see anything overly suspicious, but he is pleased that the deployment created a strong impression. Known as a Hercules team, it makes multiple appearances around the city each day. The locations are chosen either in response to specific intelligence or simply to provide a show of force at high-profile sites.

"Clearly, New York is way in front on this," says Brian Michael Jenkins, a terrorism expert with the Rand Corp. "As the threat gets more diffused, we are going to have less of the kind of intelligence that can be picked up by the feds. We are dealing now with threats that are deliberately operating under the radar. Therefore, we have to aim the radar lower, to the local level."

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