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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Wed 11 May 2011, 18:39:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')anessa Guerena vividly remembers seeing her wounded husband.
"When I came out the officers dragged me through the kitchen and took me outside, and that's when I saw him laying there gasping for air," Vanessa Guerena said. "I kept begging the officers to call an ambulance that maybe he could make it and that my baby was still inside."
The little boy soon after walked out of the closet on his own. SWAT members took him outside to be with his mother.
"I never imagined I would lose him like that, he was badly injured but I never thought he could be killed by police after he served his country," Vanessa Guerena said.
The family's 5-year-old son was at school that morning and deputies say they thought Guerena's wife and his other child would also be gone when they entered the home.
Guerena says there were no drugs in their house.
Deputies said they seized a "large sum of money from another house" that morning. But they refused to say from which of the homes searched that morning they found narcotics, drug ledgers or drug paraphernalia. Court documents showing what was being sought and was found have not been made public. A computer check on Guerena revealed a couple of traffic tickets and no criminal history.
Guerena was a Tucson native and Flowing Wells High School graduate. He joined the U.S. Marines in 2002. He served two tours in Iraq in 2003 and 2005 as part of the Yuma-based MWSS-173 under direct supervision of Master Sgt. Leo Verdugo.
Verdugo was with Guerena's family Tuesday afternoon. He gave them a Marine Corps jacket and gloves to use at Guerena's burial.
"He was an excellent Marine, with a bright future ahead of him," Verdugo said.

He never defended himself from his attackers.
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/a ... f8301.html
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Sat 14 May 2011, 00:07:13

Indiana Court Overturns Magna Carta
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.
"We believe ... a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David said. "We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."

Well now it is official at least. Police brutality victims, take note.
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 29697.html
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby rangerone314 » Sat 14 May 2011, 06:11:46

I guess rigging your front door to explode if forced open, or deploying a few claymores that are signalled by a heartbeat monitor your are wearing or a deadman-switch might be useful afterall.
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby rangerone314 » Sat 14 May 2011, 06:19:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')anessa Guerena vividly remembers seeing her wounded husband.
"When I came out the officers dragged me through the kitchen and took me outside, and that's when I saw him laying there gasping for air," Vanessa Guerena said. "I kept begging the officers to call an ambulance that maybe he could make it and that my baby was still inside."
The little boy soon after walked out of the closet on his own. SWAT members took him outside to be with his mother.
"I never imagined I would lose him like that, he was badly injured but I never thought he could be killed by police after he served his country," Vanessa Guerena said.
The family's 5-year-old son was at school that morning and deputies say they thought Guerena's wife and his other child would also be gone when they entered the home.
Guerena says there were no drugs in their house.
Deputies said they seized a "large sum of money from another house" that morning. But they refused to say from which of the homes searched that morning they found narcotics, drug ledgers or drug paraphernalia. Court documents showing what was being sought and was found have not been made public. A computer check on Guerena revealed a couple of traffic tickets and no criminal history.
Guerena was a Tucson native and Flowing Wells High School graduate. He joined the U.S. Marines in 2002. He served two tours in Iraq in 2003 and 2005 as part of the Yuma-based MWSS-173 under direct supervision of Master Sgt. Leo Verdugo.
Verdugo was with Guerena's family Tuesday afternoon. He gave them a Marine Corps jacket and gloves to use at Guerena's burial.
"He was an excellent Marine, with a bright future ahead of him," Verdugo said.

He never defended himself from his attackers.
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/a ... f8301.html

I watched the two Godfather movies this month and after reading this for some reason, that part where Michael Corleone announces he enlists in the Marines after Pearl Harbor comes to mind, and he is told that only a sucker fights for someone else instead only for their family.

I guess he was just "collateral damage" in the "Drug War". If that was my spouse killed, I would spend a few months researching where the SWAT team members live and go off duty, and deal with them the way the Mossad dealt with Black September after the Munich Massacre. The police are just mob enforcers for a corrupt plutocracy (no different than the Mafia), and they love dressing up in black and kicking doors in and putting their boots on the throat of people who are allowed no LEGAL recourse. The key point being LEGAL recourse. There is ALWAYS recourse. I'd like to see how tough they are separately in their own homes being woken up at 2am with a gun and flashlight pointed in their face.

We used to make fun of how in the USSR the Communist party officials were a special class of people in a so-called "classless society". Its a funny double joke. The USSR pretended to be communist, and the US pretended to be democratic.
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 14 May 2011, 07:20:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '[')b]Indiana Court Overturns Magna Carta
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.

Well now it is official at least. Police brutality victims, take note.
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 29697.html

I sure hope outfits like the ACLU get involved in fighting this (OK for police to enter your home for any or no reason). (Ahem -- If they're going to fight for NAMBLA :cry:) SURELY they should fight to STOP this!

Once the cops have you (illegally) in jail, and know they can put you there for ANY reason, it's not hard to see the scenario going downhill. Deny you your lawyer "temporarily". Use "advanced interrogation" to force a BS confession out of you to justify their actions...where does it stop? Think this is impossible? All they have to do is plant drugs in your car or house and they can already confiscate that WITHOUT CONVICTING YOU IN COURT.

I guess they're getting set up for when they destroy the dollar and people get really PISSED in droves -- better to have the police state firmly in place ahead of time.

And to think this country was founded on principles of freedom. :roll:

What I find most upsetting is that the majority of normal law abiding citizens (of which I am one -- my criminal career is 3 minor speeding tickets in 36 years of driving) rarely seem to be concerned about this kind of thing -- like it can't possibly happen to THEM.
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby pedalling_faster » Sat 14 May 2011, 08:10:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'W')e used to make fun of how in the USSR the Communist party officials were a special class of people in a so-called "classless society". Its a funny double joke. The USSR pretended to be communist, and the US pretended to be democratic.


by observation, most Communist party officials were Jewish. they enjoyed their advantaged position in the "class-free" society, and practiced a form of nepotism where Jewish people in the Soviet government hired other Jewish people.
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Novus » Sat 14 May 2011, 08:13:17

Police just better remember they are outnumbered 500:1 or it is going look something like this when the time comes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYmy0zr3WL8
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Angelenos furious over 'Gold Card' for traffic tickets

Postby mattduke » Tue 24 May 2011, 19:28:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')os Angeles residents are up in arms over the existence of the "Gold Card," a plastic parking bureau card distributed to city offices that includes a special phone number.

The obscure Gold Card Services Desk allowed the mayor and other elected officials to expedite citation reviews.

On the back, the card notes that the holder may have an "urgent need to resolve any parking citation matter which requires special attention." It promises "you will be immediately connected to our Gold Card Specialist."

A report released Thursday by City Controller Wendy Greuel found that about 1,000 Los Angeles city parking citations were dismissed over a two-year period -- some without justification -- as part of the Gold Card operation.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ckets.html
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Oneaboveall » Wed 25 May 2011, 00:30:51

Apparently finding out that your son committed suicide is an offense punishable by beating and arrest:

http://youtu.be/wbAeTIuhgSs

Fucking pigs.
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Thu 26 May 2011, 18:26:14

Government employee shoots eighth-grade boy
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')opez vaulted a nearby fence and hid in a backyard shed containing Christmas decorations. The homeowner saw the intrusion, and a neighbor flagged down Alvarado’s patrol car. The officer drew his gun “when he came up the driveway,” recalled the homeowner. Within a minute or so, a single gunshot resonated through the neighborhood. When asked by the horrified homeowner what had happened, Alvarado — who reportedly looked “dazed or distant” — replied that Lopez “came at me.”

“The suspect bull rushed his way out of the shed and lunged right at me,” the timorous creature later claimed in an official report. “The suspect was literally inches away from me, and I feared for my own safety.”(Emphasis added.)

Alvarado was lying, of course. An autopsy revealed “no evidence of close range firing [on] the wound,” and no gunpowder stains were found on the victim’s bloody t-shirt.

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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Tue 31 May 2011, 23:15:40

After being assaulted by government employees for dancing, Adam Kokesh and a zillion others are descending upon the Jefferson Memorial for a dance party!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbP9ulzUgFo
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby PrestonSturges » Fri 03 Jun 2011, 20:20:27

Kansas City police respond to concrete lawn ornament alligator by shooting it twice in the head.

http://www.kmbc.com/r/28107951/detail.html

Whatever happened to just poking something with a stick?
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Newfie » Fri 03 Jun 2011, 21:48:04

There you go being mad because someone over reacted.

Try THIS

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')alifornia man drowns himself in San Francisco Bay while emergency responders stand by and watch

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z1OGf1FMd7


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... rs_st.html

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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby PrestonSturges » Sat 04 Jun 2011, 02:35:03

Did they fish him out after he was dead or did they wait until the tide brought him in?
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Newfie » Sun 05 Jun 2011, 20:01:01

Alameda is a mud flat. They just stood there and waited for him to die.

Apparently some passerby waded out and drug the corpse in..........as the First Responders, our Hero's, watched.

Interestingly enough there have been two recent accidents in Philadelphia were someone drove into the Schuylkill River and in both cases by-passers came to the aid. In one case they were successful, in another not.

If you are interested there is a long discussion on the matter here http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f10 ... 61651.html
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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Cloud9 » Sun 05 Jun 2011, 20:21:14

My local sheriff’s office just bought itself a Cadillac Gage APC. This was done in a county of one hundred thousand and amidst budget cuts and shrinking revenues. Granted it is a Vietnam Era APC. Still WTF.


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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Thu 16 Jun 2011, 21:24:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ohannes Mehserle, the former BART police officer who shot and killed Oscar Grant while he was lying face down on the Fruitvale station train platform on New Year's Day 2009, was released from a Los Angeles jail June 13 after serving a total of 365 days for his involuntary manslaughter conviction. He was sentenced to two years behind bars, but Judge Robert Perry granted him an early release due to credit for time served and good behavior.

The same date of his release, the National Lawyers Guild filed a class-action lawsuit on behalf of 150 protesters who were mass-arrested during the Nov. 5, 2010 demonstration in Oakland in the wake of Mehersle's sentencing. Meanwhile, a handful of individuals who engaged in the Jan. 14, 2009 and July 8, 2010 protests launched by Grant supporters -- which morphed into riots after community rallies came to an end -- are still battling court cases.

Two of the protesters arrested last July initially faced serious felony arson charges for igniting a trash can, which could have led to incarceration for a longer duration than Mehserle served for fatally shooting Grant.

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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Tue 21 Jun 2011, 21:27:08

US police smash camera for recording killing
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')olice noticed the man filming the shooting and an officer jumped into his truck, and put a pistol to his head, Benoit said. The video shows officers crowding around Herisse's vehicle before opening fire, followed by indistinguishable yelling at onlookers, including Benoit, to stop filming.

The cop yelled: "Wanna be a [expletive] paparazzi?" Benoit recounted in a TV interview.

"My phone was smashed, he stepped on it, handcuffed me," the 35-year-old car stereo technician told CNN.
Despite his phone being destroyed, Benoit was able to save the footage by taking the memory card out of the device and putting it in his mouth before handing it over to police, he said, adding that officers smashed several other cameras in the chaos which followed the shooting.

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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby mattduke » Sun 26 Jun 2011, 11:01:09

Fullerton Cop Arrested for Stealing iPad at TSA Checkpoint

I wasn't sure if this was an isolated incident or a TSA folly. We'll see if any charges are filed for filming this police officer. It appears the reason the bureaucrat was not afforded the usual special treatment is that he was from out of state.

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Re: The Isolated Incidents Thread

Postby Oneaboveall » Mon 27 Jun 2011, 18:18:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')AMPTON — A friend of the Hampton man shot and killed during a police raid at his house Saturday said he thinks the 69-year-old man opened fire on officers because he was startled and thought they were criminal intruders.

William A. Cooper had poor eyesight because of cataracts and would often sleep late, said Richard Zacharias, 58, a retired NASA employee who was renting a trailer home from Cooper and planned to buy it from him.

Both of those factors, Zacharias said, might have caused him not to realize that it was the police that were in his home at 10 a.m.


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