[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '[')There was ZERO chance of Atlanta being evacuated because of drought.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'L')ake Mead is to rise a little this year as well, looks as if happy times are back..

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', '&')quot;A strict student of weather will never understand that it's a fundamental change in climate."
But a person questioning the global warming faith would ask, "didn't they say this was not supposed to happen?"

"Colorado River Compact was based on is not representative of the average historical climate,
(but it's full again)
and it certainly won't be representative of the future climate (but its full again)."

[peeker01]

Inspite of all this yacking, Lake Powell has gone up 5 feet since this thread began, and made 600 mw
of electricity per day. What a beautiful creation of man.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '[')There was ZERO chance of Atlanta being evacuated because of drought.

[Lore]

I fail to see the point here? Lake Powell is a reservoir, more water in then goes out at any one time and it fills up. Bottom line it's an unsustainable resource of water for the SW.

[peeker01]

As LP rockets back to it's maximum level of 3700 feet, creates billions of mw's of electricity,
and has prevented 1000's of floods, I wait breathlessly for your explanation of unsustainability.
Not to mention the fabulous nookie I had last year on my Sea Ray out at Rainbow Bridge!

[Lore]

This about sums it up.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Lake Powell Reservoir: A Failed Solution

Lake Powell Reservoir was justified to Congress in the 1950s as the perfect solution to uncertainty of water supply for the growing Southwest. It was to be the “silver bullet”, providing an insurance policy for the upper basin states’ water delivery responsibility, regulating floods, and being a “cash register” hydropower dam to pay for building dozens of other dams and irrigation projects upstream in the Colorado’s watershed. After forty years, it is clear that Lake Powell Reservoir is far from the perfect solution to water supply problems in the West. It looses a significant amount of water annually to evaporation and seepage (nearly 1 Million acre-feet annually), generates an insignificant amount of hydropower, is unsafe, has all but destroyed the natural biological resources and processes in Glen and Grand Canyons, while imposing significant long-term costs on the public (due to rapid sedimentation) including loss of endangered species, cultural resources, and ecological balance of the Grand Canyon. However, the most devastating impact of Lake Powell’s development has been the false sense of water security to both the Upper and Lower Basin States. This fallacy has resulted in unsustainable growth and development. The idea of a centralized water and electricity system has simply proven to be unsustainable.

http://www.glencanyon.org/library/water.php

[peeker01]

Give me a break. Had you told me you are one of the "knock down the dams" people,
I wouldn't have wasted my time. Listen to me, Glen Canyan Damn will be here long after you
and I are gone. Take it to the bank.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'G')ive me a break. Had you told me you are one of the "knock down the dams" people,
I wouldn't have wasted my time. Listen to me, Glen Canyan Damn will be here long after you
and I are gone. Take it to the bank.

[peeker01]

Lore, I don't know where you are getting your information, especially since you didn't bother
to source it, but drought is not on the minds of westerners right now. Floods are the next order
of business.

By the way, what kind of a "scientist" would dare make a rainfall prediction 40 years hence?
The bought and paid for university type I bet.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'L')ore, I don't know where you are getting your information, especially since you didn't bother
to source it, but drought is not on the minds of westerners right now. Floods are the next order
of business.

By the way, what kind of a "scientist" would dare make a rainfall prediction 40 years hence?
The bought and paid for university type I bet.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ake Powell is down -50.45 feet from one year ago.

[billybell]

I once read that raising / lowering the water level is a cyclical process. In my city, the lake has greatly decreased, but this summer the water level returned to a high one.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billybell', 'I') once read that raising / lowering the water level is a cyclical process. In my city, the lake has greatly decreased, but this summer the water level returned to a high one.

[evilgenius]

Back when my dad was young, he ran the river with a friend from Aspen to Lake Mead. There was no Lake Powell back then. They picked up a couple of other guys at Lee's Ferry, before they entered the Canyon. They did it on a surplus WWII pontoon bridge boat. The things that generation could do, by just throwing some things into the back of a car, amazing.

There are so many more people now. The demands are so much greater. The supply is sometimes the same, and sometimes it is less. Managing the situation must be very difficult.

[Newfie]

I recall reading a few years ago a tree ring study suggested strongly that the Colorado River was damned during a prolonged abnormall HIGH precipitation level. That trending over a few thousand years the basin had been considerably dryer and the fear was that this “normal” precipitation pattern was returning.

Thus the damns were doomed on a longer basis unless the new “wet” pattern was permanent.

It would seem the wet pattern was a blip.

But time will tell. Probably not smart to count on early 20th century percipitation rates for long term planning.

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') recall reading a few years ago a tree ring study suggested strongly that the Colorado River was damned during a prolonged abnormall HIGH precipitation level. That trending over a few thousand years the basin had been considerably dryer and the fear was that this “normal” precipitation pattern was returning.

Thus the damns were doomed on a longer basis unless the new “wet” pattern was permanent.

It would seem the wet pattern was a blip.

But time will tell. Probably not smart to count on early 20th century percipitation rates for long term planning.

[Newfie]

Again digging deeply into the archives of my mind I believe that transport is illegal because of covenants/treaties between the USA and Canada over the use of great lakes water.

It would be better to not fight nature but to retreat and allow nature to be nature. Live where it makes sense. Grow where it makes sense, like where there is abundant rainfall.