[phaster]

Any problem a person or group looks at is going to be biased by a persons life experence, but the reason most people have not been made aware of an issue like "peak oil" is because it is quite complex and in general people like simple ideas.

Another reason most people do not warm up to the idea of peak oil is because it is an "inconvenient truth" than eventually will mean some kind of life style change. Furthermore social norms in this country, have reinforced ideas thru "advertising" that there are no downsides to consumer culture.

As it stands, the american public likes the idea of a life style where they can live in McMansion and drive an SUV, but the unfortunate down truth of such a life style is too many americans used cheap credit to live an unsustainable life style (both from an economic and environmental standpoint).

From what I gather many people on this board are somewhat "OBSESSED" with the concept of peak oil, for many different reasons. Personally I think "peak oil" is another opportunity to change the economy to more environmentally sustainable, but others seem preoccupied with "running off to the hills and living in a bunker."

As a patrol offier, I'm kinda curious if ya changed your diving habbits after becomming "OBSESSED" by that I mean you can greatly improve gas mileage by not stomping on the gas and accelerating unnecessarly, driving within the posted speed limit say 65 MPH on the highway.

Personally I've been driving that way for years, and manage to break the EPA estimates for my various cars. For example in my land cruiser I've managed to get over 15 MPG and over 20 MPG in my BMW 540 over a number of years. That might not sound like high MPG, but for those class of vehicles its pretty darn efficent. But around town (when I do drive instead of walking) I mostly drive my old diesel benz that I bought while at university, because I find it the most comfortable to drive and the fact that it uses biodiesel.





















$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', 'S')trangely enough I first kept hearing the term "peak oil" thrashed around in a high performance automobile enthusiast forum. On a whim I decided to investigate the subject independently. I was shocked and dumbfounded at what I've found. I can't believe reputable scientists/geologists have been predicting this for some time but this has not been pushed out into the mainstream.

I'm still in the process of objectively examining both sides of the issue. In the meantime my girlfriend swears I'm obsessed with this subject. I find myself slipping the topic in every chance I get without mentioning the buzz word "peak oil". In my profession as a patrol officer, I practically live out of my car at work so even as I'm driving around in the Ford guzzlin gas I can't stop thinking about it.

I even had a dream about the subject. I was filling up gas in a really old car from the seventies. Gasoline was spilling all over the place as I was putting it in the tank. There was even a special drainage bin in the ground for the spilt fuel going in the cars as if this was normal. I tried to drive off and the fuel started leaking out like crazy from the hose near the fuel pump. I was on my way to a college class but I was worried I wouldn't make it because of the leaking hose I was so desperatly trying to fix.

As I sit here getting ready to take a break by playing "Frontline Fuel of War" (yes, oddly enough someone has made a video game based on a peak oil scenario), I wonder if its all just a fad. The religious overtones of armeggedon and societal collapse seem rather ironic given my first impression of alot of people on these forums are that they are agnostic or atheist. Apocalyptic predictions stemming from an us vs them mentality tend to be dead wrong. Our nation's religious past is littered with cults and sects whose doomsday apocalyptic visions never came to pass.

Ok I'm starting to ramble, this is my first post, and my impressions as listed above are only first impressions. The thing that stands out in all my research of this is the graphs and the solid science behind it.

[usncom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lumpy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', 'Y')es, you are obsessed. You sound like me when I first encountered Peak Oil.

I started seeing a psychiatrist.

I convinced her and now we're married and live on a farm in the country.

Welcome and keep your cool. Dystopia is on the way but it won't happen overnight.

[Revi]

I've been obsessed since I found out about peak oil in 2000. I can't seem to shake it. Recent events confirm the reality of the situation. I have mellowed a bit, but I prepare every day. I do something. Every little bit helps. It looks like it's coming now.

I feel than any time we have left before it gets really bad is for getting ready.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', '(')...)
As I sit here getting ready to take a break by playing "Frontline Fuel of War" (yes, oddly enough someone has made a video game based on a peak oil scenario), I wonder if its all just a fad. The religious overtones of armeggedon and societal collapse seem rather ironic given my first impression of alot of people on these forums are that they are agnostic or atheist. Apocalyptic predictions stemming from an us vs them mentality tend to be dead wrong. Our nation's religious past is littered with cults and sects whose doomsday apocalyptic visions never came to pass.

Ok I'm starting to ramble, this is my first post, and my impressions as listed above are only first impressions. The thing that stands out in all my research of this is the graphs and the solid science behind it.

[Lumpy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lumpy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', 'Y')es, you are obsessed. You sound like me when I first encountered Peak Oil.

I started seeing a psychiatrist.

I convinced her and now we're married and live on a farm in the country.

Welcome and keep your cool. Dystopia is on the way but it won't happen overnight.

[POAlex]

Welcome to the site!

Alex

[kpeavey]

Should have taken the BLUE pill.

[Revi]

We're all going to have to adapt to changing circumstances, and we're heading for some really tough times.

The permaculture guy, Holmgren said that the best strategy in nature is competition if there is increasing energy coming into the system. Look at farms, they have gotten bigger and bigger in the 20th century.

In a system with decreasing energy, the best strategy is cooperation. In the low energy human systems of the world, the village economy, there is a high degree of cooperation.

We are going to have to re-create that.

[rostov]

Kia Ora and welcome to the real matrix world

Um, just remember to breathe.

Note : it takes YEARS to really prep up. And if you're smart like most of us, you'd really be choosy and wise about sharing what you can understand and know about PO. Concentrate on preps and immediate circle at once.

[bonehead]

You're not obsessed but you could become very depressed.Life can be hard enough without this crap.You'll start looking at the most minor things differently in order to conserve,but rest assured,whatever you might save will be sucked up by some stupid people somewhere else.

[Schadenfreude]

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Oil, Smoke and Mirrors - part 1 of 5

[BigTex]

Learning about peak oil is kind of like picking up a little monkey and putting it on your back.

It's not a very big monkey, but after a while having it with you all the time gets to be a drag and you will take it off your back as you have done with many other things in your life.

To get rid of the monkey, you may take it out in the country and release it. When you get back home, however, there it will be, looking at you like "I liked it on your back."

No matter how you try to get rid of the monkey, it will always seem to find its way back to you.

This can be one of the most frustrating aspects of this topic. You pick it up initially because of its novelty and the way it appeals to your sense of reason on so many levels, but when it comes time to put it down, you find that you can't.

And when you try to share your monkey problem with others they look at you like you're crazy.

And when you look in the phone book for a peak oil monkey removal service, you find that there is no such thing.

So, enjoy learning about peak oil, enjoy the site, and enjoy your new monkey.

[vision-master]

Got no monkey on my back
And Im never gonna crack

cause its a good life
Too good to lose
But its a hard world
With the junkie blues

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', 'S')trangely enough I first kept hearing the term "peak oil" thrashed around in a high performance automobile enthusiast forum. On a whim I decided to investigate the subject independently. I was shocked and dumbfounded at what I've found. I can't believe reputable scientists/geologists have been predicting this for some time but this has not been pushed out into the mainstream.

I'm still in the process of objectively examining both sides of the issue. In the meantime my girlfriend swears I'm obsessed with this subject. I find myself slipping the topic in every chance I get without mentioning the buzz word "peak oil". In my profession as a patrol officer, I practically live out of my car at work so even as I'm driving around in the Ford guzzlin gas I can't stop thinking about it.

I even had a dream about the subject. I was filling up gas in a really old car from the seventies. Gasoline was spilling all over the place as I was putting it in the tank. There was even a special drainage bin in the ground for the spilt fuel going in the cars as if this was normal. I tried to drive off and the fuel started leaking out like crazy from the hose near the fuel pump. I was on my way to a college class but I was worried I wouldn't make it because of the leaking hose I was so desperatly trying to fix.

As I sit here getting ready to take a break by playing "Frontline Fuel of War" (yes, oddly enough someone has made a video game based on a peak oil scenario), I wonder if its all just a fad. The religious overtones of armeggedon and societal collapse seem rather ironic given my first impression of alot of people on these forums are that they are agnostic or atheist. Apocalyptic predictions stemming from an us vs them mentality tend to be dead wrong. Our nation's religious past is littered with cults and sects whose doomsday apocalyptic visions never came to pass.

Ok I'm starting to ramble, this is my first post, and my impressions as listed above are only first impressions. The thing that stands out in all my research of this is the graphs and the solid science behind it.

[Hagakure_Leofman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'L')earning about peak oil is kind of like picking up a little monkey and putting it on your back.

It's not a very big monkey, but after a while having it with you all the time gets to be a drag...

[usncom]

Thanks for the replies everyone!

That youtube video was very interesting. I heard the UK person say will peak globally in 2010, yet, I read documents that say we have already peaked. Which is it?

[Hagakure_Leofman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', 'T')hanks for the replies everyone!

That youtube video was very interesting. I heard the UK person say will peak globally in 2010, yet, I read documents that say we have already peaked. Which is it?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hagakure_Leofman', '
')I certainly don't think production will increase at this point. I think it's safe to say we're at the top of the curve historically.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hagakure_Leofman', '
')I certainly don't think production will increase at this point. I think it's safe to say we're at the top of the curve historically.

[usncom]

Really mos?

You're looking forward to the biggest worldwide catastrophe in the history of mankind?