[vision-master]

I keep hammering people with PO news on another forum I vist.

It don't sink in. Personal attacks are the only responces I get. This has been going on for a few Months now.

Here's one of my favorites. :haha:

[roccman]

Hey - that maybe me telling U to FO!!

There is no replacement for the F bomb!!!

[threadbear]

How depressing. Dopamine is right about people not using their brains. It really isn't necessary when there are several degrees of separation between actual physical survival and every day life in a technocracy.

Social survival and status have become the defining issues in a complex culture, illustrated by the fact that the number one phobia is public speaking, fear of looking "stupid". People are truly social robots. If you observe the 911 thread, for example, watch how this fear of embarrassment and peer pressure is used as a controllling tool, even on an anonymous forum! It is actually far more effective than fear of terrorism, peak oil, climate change, etc...to motivate change and keep people on a treadmill of trivial distractions.

The other extreme are individuals who become hysterical at the drop of a hat, and makes all kinds of contingencies for horrific scenarios that never play out. They can be controlled as well.

Good luck trying to have your friends entertain any notion that isn't endorsed and repeated by the CNN or FOX news anchors, or Beckham. Lord. Sometimes I just want to find a new planet.

Try this as an experiment. Relate peak oil to some idea about making money, which plays directly into status. Tell them you know of people who are anticipating peak oil who have tripled their money in the last 2 years, through investing in the right commodities. This is true, btw. Would love to hear if that gets them interested.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', 'I') mentioned Peak Oil to some friends a few weeks ago at dinner and immediately got blown off with the Big Oil Collusion explanation.

You know what I'm talking about: Government ministers, execs, geologists and drillers from private and state-owned companies, OPEC and non-OPEC countries including Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Norway, Brazil, Mexico, Canada and dozens of other interesting bedfellows are holding secret meetings on a mountaintop somewhere to set export rates and refinery shutdowns and plot this whole Peak Oil scam to keep prices up! I'm sure the jews and freemasons are involved too.

I didn't even have time to explain EROEI.

I'd prefer it if someone would just change the subject to the Beckham family. Seriously, the Big Oil Collusion blowoff is gonna give me ulcers.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', 'P')ersonally I'm thinking of writing to JK Rowling. If she were to get interested in Peak Oil then it could get great publicity; everyone would listen to JK! Maybe I'll send her a print out from lifeaftertheoilcrash.net. Mmwhahahaha!

[FreakOil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')reakOil wrote:
I mentioned Peak Oil to some friends a few weeks ago at dinner and immediately got blown off with the Big Oil Collusion explanation.

You know what I'm talking about: Government ministers, execs, geologists and drillers from private and state-owned companies, OPEC and non-OPEC countries including Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Norway, Brazil, Mexico, Canada and dozens of other interesting bedfellows are holding secret meetings on a mountaintop somewhere to set export rates and refinery shutdowns and plot this whole Peak Oil scam to keep prices up! I'm sure the jews and freemasons are involved too.

I didn't even have time to explain EROEI.

I'd prefer it if someone would just change the subject to the Beckham family. Seriously, the Big Oil Collusion blowoff is gonna give me ulcers.


They are partly right, as you are partly right. It's neither one or the other, and if you think it is, I'd ignore you too.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreakOil', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')reakOil wrote:
I mentioned Peak Oil to some friends a few weeks ago at dinner and immediately got blown off with the Big Oil Collusion explanation.

You know what I'm talking about: Government ministers, execs, geologists and drillers from private and state-owned companies, OPEC and non-OPEC countries including Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Norway, Brazil, Mexico, Canada and dozens of other interesting bedfellows are holding secret meetings on a mountaintop somewhere to set export rates and refinery shutdowns and plot this whole Peak Oil scam to keep prices up! I'm sure the jews and freemasons are involved too.

I didn't even have time to explain EROEI.

I'd prefer it if someone would just change the subject to the Beckham family. Seriously, the Big Oil Collusion blowoff is gonna give me ulcers.


They are partly right, as you are partly right. It's neither one or the other, and if you think it is, I'd ignore you too.

[mgibbons19]

I would talk about Victoria Beckham.

Aint no use talking about PO with ppl.

[JPL]

When I was at college (Mining Engineering) back in 1984 we learned all about Peak Oil. Had lectures on the subject - from some of the best & brightest in the 'extractive' industry. It was going to happen some-time in the first decade of the 21'st century - official. I still have no idea what all the sudden surprise is about. I've been aware of it for over 20 years.

JPL

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'I') would talk about Victoria Beckham.

Aint no use talking about PO with ppl.

[Evltre]

oh and I wanted to share a "chicken soup for the soul" experience I had a few days ago - I just about died of shock.

So, this kindy mum comes over for a "play date". This is the first time I've really "met" her (she's recently moved here). So she arrives, is in the house for 5 minutes and we're talking cloth nappies. The conversation goes:

Her: oh these nappies are fabulous. I love them. I'm really thinking of them for my daughter
Me: oh yes, they're fantastic, so easy to use blah blah blah, so great for the environment blah blah blah
Her: Hmmm might have to come back and talk more about them. You know I think there might be a big swing back towards cloth in the future
Me: yes, as people become more environmentally aware
Her: But that's not the only reason....They take a lot of petrochemicals to produce....did you know the oil is running out.
Me: .......(speechless)

Honestly, you could have knocked me over with a feather.
Turns out her husband works in plastics.
We had a great old chat!

[What_Went_Wrong]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', 'I') still have no idea what all the sudden surprise is about. I've been aware of it for over 20 years.

JPL

[What_Went_Wrong]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Evltre', '
')Honestly, you could have knocked me over with a feather.
Turns out her husband works in plastics.
We had a great old chat!

[TheDude]

I first read about Peak Oil when I was seven. Oil runs out in 2025 or so, but don't worry, read about these nifty fuel cells! Solar cars! I loved it, figured we'd be opening Holiday Inns in orbit by now. Not gonna happen. Bit of a rug pulled out from under us all but hey. All we can do is try.
People who seem to suceed with spreading the word sometimes spend years on it with some people, unfortunately for them including family, if you think it's worth trying to mitigate. There are plenty of things you can do that are sensible no matter how you look at it, cheap too, like Emergency Preparedness, or trying to cut down on your energy consumption around the house, or biking more - good for the cardio and you save a buck, or bones, or clams or whatever you call them.
Who's this Beckham dude? Was Bend it like Beckham (some film) about him? What's with all the members of the Commonwealth replying, too? 'Tis a proper topic.

vision-master - that site you got that F.Off image from is priceless! The Museum of Tolerance and Diversity.

Stuff like this:



What's this forum you're doing battle at too, if you don't mind telling? I always enjoy a good scrap with the heathen.

[Sheb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'I') would talk about Victoria Beckham.

Aint no use talking about PO with ppl.

[NoLogos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('What_Went_Wrong', '
')
I’m grateful for what I have, even more so now, but I know that it comes at the expense of millions alive today and every generation that will follow mine. I don’t want to be part of that anymore, even if peakoil was not happening for another 30 years rather then today.

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('What_Went_Wrong', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', 'I') still have no idea what all the sudden surprise is about. I've been aware of it for over 20 years.

JPL

[mgibbons19]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sheb', '
')Of course, the question I grapple with is is there any point telling people (with the exception of loved ones) something that just makes them avoid me in the future? I am thinking more and more that maybe ...not easily giving up explanations to my actions....

[Ludi]

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dopamine', 'T')he greatest problem is that most people have not developed their brains - they're stupid or ignorant or both. They have the caveman mentality evolved in small primitive tribes ...

[What_Went_Wrong]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')Hi What_Went_Wrong,

Well I guess after 20 years as a 'rebel' I guess all I can suggest is that the 'knowing the truth' issue (with time) becomes a bit more complex than it appears at first but we can call it 'Peak Oil' if you like (grin).

Take all that you have learned in the last couple of years and put it to good use. Don't slide back into ignorance, or denial, but progress and learn.

Also learn to 'untie' mentally from the society around you. This is perhaps the hardest step of all but if you become self-sufficient inside then you may find that is there is very little 'out there' that can truely harm you. This is not the end of wisdom but it is the beginning and you may find that other things follow from that.

Just an old man's ramblings though, please ignore, peeps, if my thoughts cause upset...

JPL