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Join the Dark Side!

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The Dark Side?

Yes! I choose the Dark Side!
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No! I'll remain a weak, pathetic servant of the light.
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Other.
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Jack, you sociopath. You gave me WAY too much information!
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Oh...my...God...
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Total votes : 50

Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 13:10:08

Peak grains of Salt! 8)

IMHO anyone who supports the status quo is guilty.
Anyone who promotes the neocon/zionist agenda is guilty.
Anyone who is not planning, prepping and attempting to educate regardless of persecution is guilty.

Those of us who are trying to do "the right thing" are not perfect and "the right thing" can be very difficult to define yet at least we are trying :)
Still accomplices yet if your goal is to powerdown and strive for sustainability then alot less guilty IMO.

Give us a couple hundred years and we may look back and think that the right thing was collectively offing it yet I hope not.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 13:13:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')MHO anyone who supports the status quo is guilty.
Anyone who promotes the neocon/zionist agenda is guilty.
Anyone who is not planning, prepping and attempting to educate regardless of persecution is guilty.

Well, seize power ruthlessly enough, and you'll get to have a purge of all the people you deem guilty.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 14:39:43

seahorse has convinced me. I can't do it, Jack. It's just too mean. But I'll keep it in mind and maybe later after TSHTF I'll remember your advice. Though probably not, it's good to keep options open. Can you be on the Dark Side part time, while staying on the Side Of Righteousness the rest of the time?
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 14:56:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')Can you be on the Dark Side part time, while staying on the Side Of Righteousness the rest of the time?


Most people do. And that, Penultimate, is no jest.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 15:02:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')Can you be on the Dark Side part time, while staying on the Side Of Righteousness the rest of the time?


Most people do. And that, Penultimate, is no jest.

The Side of Righteousness is always composed of mostly dark siders. If you're really serious about molesting children, which are you going to join? The Man-Boy Love Association? Or the Baptist Sunday School Board? Most people join pompous Side of Righteousness groups because they want to distract you from all the low down sleazy things they are doing.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby paimei01 » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 15:20:36

Impressive...most impressive... But you are not a Jedi yet !
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 15:26:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'M')ost people join pompous Side of Righteousness groups because they want to distract you from all the low down sleazy things they are doing.
so let me get this straight, there are evil people, and then there evil people who pretend to be good? which are you?
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Zentric » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 16:12:04

Thanks, Jack, for cluing us in on how guys like Karl Rove, Tom DeLay and our Vice President might truly think and operate. But for some reason, that sociopathic vibe doesn't quite come off of you personally. Maybe it's because of your desire to disclose what you know. Wouldn't your fellow warlords consider this a weakness?
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Chaparral » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 16:52:27

I might reply to Seahorse that many have thought Machiavelli was a no-goodnik and ought to be censored. Leo Stauss wrote an essay on this and suggested the opposite: that Machiavelli's Prince is a work of good, since the naive faithful souls who read it may put themselves on either side of the equation and steer their course accordingly. Jack merely pulls back the curtain so that we can see the operating system behind all the smoke and fury and obscuring pontification. Jack's propositon should be required reading for all who consider themselves in the parlance of game theory, "cooperators" rather than "defectors". This issue needs to be aired out thoroughly since cooperation will be as important as it has ever been in the onrushing times ahead.

I may have to have Jack and Seahorse challenge each other to a duel in "As the Zombie World Turns!" tho.... it could be fun :twisted:
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 17:01:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', ' ')Wouldn't your fellow warlords consider this a weakness?


Sure. Alas, we have all been measured and found wanting. I am a poor, wretched sinner who does not always live up to the standards of the Dark Side.

Oh, well. Try, try again. 8)
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Ayame » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 17:19:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')Darth Nihilus' views have found fertile. What better victory for us than to turn the proclaimed followers of light, who promise us limitless ethanol, into destroyers of an entire planet - as they are doing even now. Welcome ot the Dark Side, Darth Ayame!


Indeed, I think I shall never tire of laughing at the silly meatbags amusing yet ultimately futile attempts to carry on their current way of life and postpone the day of reckoning.

Of course while I wait for that day I, Darth Ayame, will entertain myself with my favourite pastime of *Dance Dance Revolution!* Yey!
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 17:19:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', '
')I may have to have Jack and Seahorse challenge each other to a duel in "As the Zombie World Turns!" tho.... it could be fun :twisted:


You'll see the two ideologies played out soon enough, I think.

There will be those who claim to be pure and good - and they will use tactics that would make Stalin turn aside in disgust. You'll have others who proclaim various philosophies that might be decried as pure evil - but their acts will end up being good.

Seahorse spoke of the Nazis, and I suppose they are the present-day icon of evil. So, what of the pilots who dropped bombs on Dresden, creating a lethal firestorm? The area bombed was the historic part of the city, not important from the perspective of war production. Were those Allied pilots evil? They killed civilians and destroyed a city. Or were they good, since they were fighting evil? Or were they not really either - just men doing what they thought was their duty?

More currently - let us suppose we have a really good lawyer. A client seeks representation in a criminal case. The client is charged with capital murder - when, in fact, they committed manslaughter. So, does the attorney get the killer released? Quietly arrange a plea bargain so the killer winds up doing some time - and the attorney gets paid anyway? But that's deceit, isn't it?

And what of the sub-prime mortgage situation? Is it cruel deceit to guide people who cannot afford to buy a house into a mortgage? Or is it good, since they have a shot at home ownership? Or is it "just business"?

What of a Marine sniper in Iraq? Is he good - fighting for freedom for the Iraqi people? Evil - killing someone he doesn't know...only following orders? Or neither - just a man trying to get back to his family in one piece?

Now, notice I offer no judgments. I'll let others do that. But if we're going to take a perfectly nice little thread and start discussing heavy-duty issues like "good" and "evil", we may find quite a nasty can of worms at the bottom.

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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 17:20:29

Jack is simply describing the difference between aggressiveness and passive-aggressiveness. It took me a while to throw off the shackles and there was some fallout - some relationships had to go - but I like life much better as a Dark Lord. It's a much more honest life. There is no pretension; everything around me exists only so long as it pleases me.

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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 17:29:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 's')o let me get this straight, there are evil people, and then there evil people who pretend to be good? which are you?


I'm just a screwed up sap trying my best to muddle through.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Ayame » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 18:16:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')3. It is less stressful to be nice. You don't have to look over you shoulder at the people you may have f#$ked.


Don't forget that it takes a good memory to be deceitful and remember what you have/haven't told everyone. Although it's amusing to find out just how guilable some people really are.
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 20:33:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')MHO anyone who supports the status quo is guilty.
Anyone who promotes the neocon/zionist agenda is guilty.
Anyone who is not planning, prepping and attempting to educate regardless of persecution is guilty.

Well, seize power ruthlessly enough, and you'll get to have a purge of all the people you deem guilty.


You crack me up as your kung fu is very weak 8)

If this post was a simple "trap" then the purge is closer then you might like to think.
I smell a Neocon....

The ultimate goal is to BLUR everything.
Well done!!! bravo...
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Re: Join the Dark Side!

Unread postby Jack » Sat 24 Mar 2007, 21:45:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') would imagine Jack you are a city boy. It is easier to get away with this kind of sh%t when you can easily dump and resestablish friendship (or should I say 'useships').


Yep. I'd never get away with my behavior in a small town or rural community.

Worse still, they might expect me to (shudder!) work.
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