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It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the Web

Unread postby kochevnik » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 20:56:58

Didn't know that did you ?

International Marriage Broker Regulation Act
Fucking Insane Govt Idiots

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') new federal law that makes it a crime for Americans to communicate with foreigners on dating websites without criminal background checks is upheld by a federal judge.




I've seen a lot of nutty things done by the govt - but this one really really takes the cake.

I met my wife on the internet and we've been married 5 years. It would be a FELONY for me to do so today.

This country is so f*cked up it's beyond description.



And while I'm thinking about it - this PO.com had a dating thread a while back - I'm sure there was some communications with foreigners on there - and I'm sure background checks were not done - so this is a felony under this law.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 00:23:11

They're afraid the 'Merkan could then leave the US.

Evil empires are always concerned with 3 types of flight:

Capital flight
Skills flight
Dissident flight

There are already a few pages out there on the net by regular 'Merkans who managed to meet a nice Polish etc girl and are now happily living on a Polish farm, I know of one 'Merkan gal who escaped and is now a very very happy hausfrau in Denmark, where she's continually surprised at how nice a society it is there.

'Merka can't have this going on - thus, it's a felony to get too friendly with un-'Merkans. It was like this in the USSR too.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 05:27:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')hey're afraid the 'Merkan could then leave the US.

Evil empires are always concerned with 3 types of flight:

Capital flight
Skills flight
Dissident flight

No they are not.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('discussed article', 'T')he law was sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-KS and Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-WA and was championed by key women's groups. The law was passed after these groups made claims that foreign women who marry American men are subjected to higher rates of abuse than are American women. However, the only study that addresses this issue was done by the INS in 1999 and it found that the rate of abuse in such international marriages is one-seventh the rate of abuse in domestic marriages. See http://www.online-dating-rights.com/ind ... ew&iden=24

As you can find out mentioned laws are meant for women protection.
American women to be precise. They are apparently so useless, that more and more American men are seeking their brides abroad presumably for the purpose of leading their life style in the fashion not compatible with widely advertised politically correct crap.
Being Brit I done the same (married woman from Far East), albeit I met her first time "in person", not via internet. From perspective of 16 years or so, when we are together, it was the best choice I had ever made in my life (when I had an opportunity to make a choice).

Outcome: we have nice family (2 kids), we are reasonably wealthy and completely debt free.
We don't need "everyday job" either, to keep us going.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 05:57:14

I don't care what they say the law is for - I cite cases of a 'Merkan man and a woman both, leaving the Empire and being very happy and in a way threatening to the values of the Empire - living humbly and happily.

What they SAY the law is for, and what the law is really for, do not have to be the same thing.

And in any case, if you really are British living in England, this law will not affect you. Go back to sleep.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby kam300en » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 06:36:00

This is a totally unenforceable law. Besides, with peak oil and the end of the party, I see it as pointless. I'll be surprised if the internet even exists in 5 years.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 06:47:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '
')And in any case, if you really are British living in England, this law will not affect you. Go back to sleep.

Incidentally I am British, but now living in Poland.
Early retirement, I suppose.
I am aware, that US laws are very unlikely to affect me, nevertheless I had noted, that rather third country women are being "imported" to US (presumably they want to have a taste of American Dream TM) and Americans are very rarely deciding to leave.
You must understand, that only minute proportion of US citizens are of Peak Oil folk mentality, who want to leave "The Matrix".
Usually they are just consumers, no more, no less.
Hence mentioned laws are in effect restricting immigration into the US and not emigration out.
Hence your conclusions about evil empire locking citizens in are false.
You may always hand down US passport and go away, wherever you wish. No one will keep you in and they will be happy to keep you out in fact.
Naturally, that is no longer true if you owe some money to US bank or (God forbid!) to your taxman.
Well, if that is the case it is your fault...
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 07:03:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam300en', 'T')his is a totally unenforceable law. Besides, with peak oil and the end of the party, I see it as pointless. I'll be surprised if the internet even exists in 5 years.

Unenforceable? I agree.
Creations of plenty of unenforceable laws is one of hallmarks of decadent society.
Even long after PO international travel will prevail, albeit it will be very rarely air travel.
What about reneissance of wind (or steam) powered sea travel?
Internet gone in 5 years? As a result of atomic war yes, otherwise give that beast at least 50 years more in scaled down version perhaps.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 16:00:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou may always hand down US passport and go away, wherever you wish. No one will keep you in and they will be happy to keep you out in fact.


If the Department of Homeland Security doesn't approve of you leaving, you can't leave. Effective this year.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby auscanman » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 16:18:33

I tend to agree with EnergyUnlimited's theory that this law is designed to coerce American men into marrying American women.

I for one would never marry a western woman. They're an incredibly self-entitled, moody, materialistic bunch. There might be a few exceptions, but from what I've seen even their nature tends to change once the first kid is born. It's good that western men are finally catching onto this, standing up for themselves, and finding women from places like South America, Russia and the far East who haven't got a chip on their shoulder, won't sentence their husbands to a lifetime of debt up to their eyeballs, and who they can have a meaningful relationship with.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby smiley » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 17:10:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s you can find out mentioned laws are meant for women protection. American women to be precise They are apparently so useless, that more and more American men are seeking their brides abroad presumably for the purpose of leading their life style in the fashion not compatible with widely advertised politically correct crap.


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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')merican women stick together.
Last thing they wanna see

is you got some trained
bush bitch in your house.


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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 20:59:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')I am aware, that US laws are very unlikely to affect me, nevertheless I had noted, that rather third country women are being "imported" to US (presumably they want to have a taste of American Dream TM) and Americans are very rarely deciding to leave.
You must understand, that only minute proportion of US citizens are of Peak Oil folk mentality, who want to leave "The Matrix".
Usually they are just consumers, no more, no less.
Hence mentioned laws are in effect restricting immigration into the US and not emigration out.
Hence your conclusions about evil empire locking citizens in are false.wish. No one will keep you in and they will be happy to keep you out in fact. blah blah blah it's your own fault you owe Uncle Sam taxes blah blah.... God save the Qeen blah blah.....


And it's the fault of the Ukranians that Stalin starved 'em....

OK, I agree with you that right now, so far, it's been more McWives imported than 'Merkans moving out, but that it starting to change, and will really change as the US economy tanks. Most 'Merkans are indeed consumers, not real people but there's quite an underground movement to leave, and this will grow. Greatly.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 21:30:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou may always hand down US passport and go away, wherever you wish. No one will keep you in and they will be happy to keep you out in fact.


If the Department of Homeland Security doesn't approve of you leaving, you can't leave. Effective this year.


Dude, you do realize we have these things called 'bor-ders', right? To the North and South. Just cross. No one's looking. Just do it. It's ok.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 21:34:00

Yep the borders are still rather porous in the US, that is changing rapidly but as it is now, it's possible to physically escape. IDs and passports are getting a lot more accurate, the ultimate end will be a DNA code, that will be very hard to fake. But fake IDs are not impossible right now.

It's getting harder to leave very, very rapidly though. You need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico now, and it's a 10-week wait and if you're never had one, an interview, maybe an interview anyway, to get one.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 22:50:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')ude, you do realize we have these things called 'bor-ders', right? To the North and South. Just cross. No one's looking. Just do it. It's ok.


To get to Europe, Asia, or Australia without a passport, you have to magically be able to swim across thousands of miles of ocean. Mexico is arguably in even worse shape than the U.S., while if you get caught in Canada without a passport, you're likely to get shipped right on back.

While it may be relatively easy to leave today, it won't if the resource wars escalate to a point that a draft is needed to get people to fight them.

If we ever get to that point, it's time to stop worrying about leaving and time to start killing our 'elected' representatives. But we'll just have to wait and see how things go.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby Magus » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 22:55:58

I'm sure it would be always possible to leave if someone really wanted to. I mean, the border is hundreds of miles long. There is no way in hell everyone crossing could be detained. And if you wanted to cross the ocean, just steal somebodies boat.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 23:00:23

While true, many within the former USSR who attempted to leave ran into problems, some of which got them imprisoned or worse. America is headed down that same path, and just might be there in a decade or two.

This country has certainly passed all the necessary legislation to allow such a nightmare scenario to occur. All it has left to do is to fully implement it. Won't take long after the effects of the long emergency are felt.
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 23:05:19

Toes is right. We're entering into the same kind of scenario as the USSR, yes even becoming a pariah nation to a good half of the world, because of our behavior as a world citizen (more like the world violent psycho).
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Re: It is a FELONY for Americans to date a foreigner on the

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Fri 06 Apr 2007, 23:55:44

I will not let you bash my country like that, our country is great and all other countries suck. To speak out against the government is unpatriotic. How dare you sir!!!
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