[JohnDenver]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I')nteresting JD if this thread ain’t chum.

Somewhat along the lines of my kids and some other close family members finally looking at this site and also reading that POET is building a cellulosic ethanol plant extension to cook cobs and stalks in addition to grain and eventually other stuff.

They, of course still believe technology will save us.

What in particular changed your mind regarding PO?

[JohnDenver]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'Y')ou going to rename your blog?

Peak Oil Bunked

[kadoomsoon]

1.You aren't going to make 80 billion barrels of oil from shale every year.
2. Free ready made oil in the ground will slow down.
3. Prices will go up
4. here we are.

[Bas]

hunger strike broken so soon eh? ; )

so when would you put peak oil JD?

[JohnDenver]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'h')unger strike broken so soon eh? ; )

so when would you put peak oil JD?

[keehah]

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'h')unger strike broken so soon eh? ; )

so when would you put peak oil JD?

[venky]

JD, do you see any threat to the world economy from rising oil prices and a possible decline in world oil production in the near term ie... the next 20 years? Leaving aside the doomsday scenario's , I dont buy them either, do you think the transistion will be totally painless amidst continued economic growth and business as usual?

Oil is a critical component of economic activity, so I find it hard to believe that we will get off so lightly. At the least wouldn't we see a repeat of the oil shocks of the 70's?

[eastbay]

Oil is a critical component of economic activity, so I find it hard to believe that we will get off so lightly. At the least wouldn't we see a repeat of the oil shocks of the 70's?

I'm not sayin' you do venky, but I get a sense that many people think we're heading to a repeat of the 1973/ 1979 gas lines scenario.

This is only partially true. There will be gas lines, but only for a brief time. We'll experience a brief repeat of the gas lines period and then we'll be on to something we've never seen and most can't imagine. No gas at any price. Cars and motorcycles will be utterly worthless.

Don't expect us to then begin a happy era of merry bicycling either. Bicycling will be far too dangerous in most cities unless they're armed and ride in packs.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', '
')No. I think Peak Oil Debunked is exactly the right name. I have, however, added a fine print disclaimer to help simpletons like yourself get over the mental hurdle:

DISCLAIMER FOR IDIOTS: This site officially accepts that oil is finite, and will peak someday.

[Aaron]

[Zardoz]

Lighten up, folks. He's harmless enough. We're all scared shitless of what's coming. Each of us deals with it in our own way.

Some of us buy ammo, some of us shrug their shoulders and claim there's no point in "preparing" because there's no telling what's coming or when it will get here, some of us plant gardens, some of us move to what we hope will be ideal locations, and some of us try to make themselves believe that there is an "alternative" to 85,000,000 barrels a day of Black Gold.

JD has done a good job of deluding himself into believing in the hilarious "alternative" concept. Fine. Good for him. If it makes him feel better, what's the harm?

Rock on, JD. We love your innocent naivete. It's charming.

[FoxV]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', 'Y')es. My position hasn't changed one iota. Oil will peak, and it will be no big deal because we will smoothly switchover to alternatives. That has always been my position.

[Twilight]

Alternatives to the internal combustion engine will have to scale faster than the internal combustion engine.

Just saying.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', 'A')lternatives to the internal combustion engine will have to scale faster than the internal combustion engine.

Just saying.

[BigTex]

I wish there were a techno fix for PO, but all of the alternatives to oil have, so far, resembled prosthetic human limbs in terms of cost and functionality--no matter how good they get they are still far inferior to what they are replacing and the best ones are only available to the rich.

There is an elegance to oil that does not become apparent until you try to replace it. Kind of like one of your arms or legs.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'I') wish there were a techno fix for PO, but all of the alternatives to oil have, so far, resembled prosthetic human limbs in terms of cost and functionality--no matter how good they get they are still far inferior to what they are replacing and the best ones are only available to the rich.

[gnm]

I wonder how much funny money it will take to buy one of those when a loaf of bread is $15.....

I also wonder where you would fill one up....


-G

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')I also wonder where you would fill one up....

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '
')I also wonder where you would fill one up....