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Help wanted: Bat or bird?

Unread postby spot5050 » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 18:04:37

I've just seen four winged things fly past past the back of my house but it's 3 hours after sunset here and I've never seen birds on the wing after dark. Could they have been bats?

I've seen individual bats flying around out back before but these winged things were in formation flying the way birds do ie. changing direction with each other in a synchronsied way, which is a behaviour I associate with birds.

Forgive my ignorance. Birds or bats anyone?
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Unread postby Aaron » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 18:20:32

birds...
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Unread postby BabyPeanut » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 18:44:38

t'was the nightingale and not the bat, I swear it.
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Unread postby DomusAlbion » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 19:00:45

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Unread postby Liamj » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 19:22:25

Guess it depends on where you are, but here in SE Aus, night flying fruit bats are common. Their wingspans get up to nearly 3foot, have v.high freq cries to nav by, and you can smell their roosts from a lo-o-ong way. They had a big mob in the Melb. Botanic Gardens, but the smell & plant destruction apparently reqd they be moved (at huge cost & debate) up the Yarra River a bit. Now they're getting blamed for the leptospirosis in the river. Once used to them they're pretty cool, flocks of big black nearly silent bats swooping thru yards...
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Unread postby Fatherof4 » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 20:45:32

Watching bats I've noticed they never stop batting their wings, only birds seem to be able to put it on cruise control. I've never seen them flying in formation.
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Unread postby BabyPeanut » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 20:59:56

Birds only stop flapping because they're wimps.
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Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 21:38:15

Could be either. Sunset is when bugs come out (not as true given the time of year) both bats and birds eat bugs. I've only ever once seen bats flying together though. they like high trees for nesting was this near a tree? if so what kind? otherwise I'd say its just birds.

though if you want bats, you could build a bat house they aren't too difficult and they are cool. they will even let you handle them.
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Unread postby Ludi » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 21:51:43

My guess from your description would be birds. Many birds fly after sunset, when there's still enough light to see by. Examples - doves, nighthawks. Doves often fly in small coordinated groups of two or three.
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Unread postby spot5050 » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 22:52:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'b')irds...

Why birds Aaron?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fatherof4', 'W')atching bats I've noticed they never stop batting their wings,

Yes! That's what they were doing, they could have glided but didn't; they kept flapping.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'C')ould be either. Sunset is when bugs come out

Twasn't sunset UE. It was well after dark.

If they were bats tho, I've never seen them fly in formation like that. When I've seen them on TV they seem to come out of caves in a random mass eg;


..>..>..>
.>
.>..>
..>.... >
...>.>
........>

but these ones were;

..>
...>
....>
......>

Maybe I should get a batscope.
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Unread postby Aaron » Wed 02 Feb 2005, 23:04:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy birds Aaron?


Seen lots of bats here in Texas... never seen em flying formation like birds do though.

If they were flying formation... they were hopped up on crack.
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Unread postby katkinkate » Thu 03 Feb 2005, 10:17:37

There's quite a few nocturnal bird species.
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Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Thu 03 Feb 2005, 12:22:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f they were flying formation... they were hopped up on crack.


Whats this world coming to eh? Can't trust the bats anymore either!
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