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General discussions of the systemic, societal and civilisational effects of depletion.

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Hello everyone

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 17:54:53

Peak Oil is just a baby. Today it turned 1 year old. Not to put too fine a point on it, but isn't it ironic that you're still here, wasting time on these frivolous and insipid threads?

We're all going to die, some day.

I met a little girl today whose mercury-laced caps on her tiny little teeth were probably going to stunt her potential as a human being.

Poor little mercury poisoned girl with one guardian. Is he a parent, or? The odds are she has one parent. Hows she going to lug a 25 pound assault rifle over the Cacades in a blizzard, as she runs from the advancing hordes? Is she going to live or die eating snow, dirt, anything that crawls in front of her, small enough to put in her hand?
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby Pops » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 20:34:39

[PO has been around for some more than a year – first posited the year I was born but realized by my grandparents 50-years before.

So that stuff about a little girl with Mercury in her teeth comes from where?


This is a pretty funny part of your post:

“We're all going to die, some day.”

So what relevance does that bit of insight contribute?


If your post was an Ethanol powered rant just nod once - I have had my share.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 23:11:06

What I'm trying to say is that this site is a colossal waste of everyone's time, 99% of the time, and that "real life", accessible, relevant, important exists outside of it. To that extent, nothing that is said or done on this site matters. Seriously.

Peakoil is over and done with yet the creaking battleship that is PO.com shambles forward like a braindead zombie. 100+ page threads about nothing, by people who have no relevance to anyone or anything.

I think Lovelock sums it up in Revenge of Gaia pretty well- all this frivolous activity is harmless banality. In a way that is a vote for the existence of PO.com.

If you think about it, what good is it? What are the benefits, personally, of the next 1000 posts to this board, the next 500 threads? Lets not kid ourselves, this site is a black hole where you throw time and energy.

I'm not saying all threads are worthless; all posts are vacuous. But the vast majority are pointless exercises in freedom of speech. Nothing wrong with that- I happen to believe in the principle. But the fact is nothing leads to nothing on this site. Can't find anything either. The absurdity of the site cataloging a database of posts for "posterity" is absurd. The "Poster of the Year" is doubly absurd. The format is about as usable as the 15 lb. Styrofoam Beer Cozy.

I can't say I'm proud of my hundreds of posts here. I can't imagine why anyone would be. This place is a toilet bowl. Who wants to fish around for the pearls in a sea of swine? Try this: stand on one leg and call your best friend on the telephone and tell them how much you care about them. The benefit of that basically outweighs the net value of 20 posts to this forum. A good bowel movement is worth 2 posts. Blowing your nose into a napkin is with .5.

Here's my advice: turn off the computer and do 25 pushups.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby seahorse » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 23:31:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat I'm trying to say is that this site is a colossal waste of everyone's time,


Please, quit wasting you're time here. Its not worth it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')o that extent, nothing that is said or done on this site matters. Seriously.


Nice to hear. For a minute I thought I was going to have to take your advice seriously and quit posting. But then I realized the absurdity of you wasting your time here telling us not to, and it made me laugh.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')his site is a black hole where you throw time and energy.


Apparently, you've been sucked in. Please find a way out.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') can't say I'm proud of my hundreds of posts here.


On this we agree.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') can't imagine why anyone would be.


This isn't surprising. You've never showed any imagination.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his place is a toilet bowl. Who wants to fish around for the pearls in a sea of swine?


Apparently, you do, you're still swimming here.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')ry this: stand on one leg and call your best friend on the telephone and tell them how much you care about them.


Yes, please take your own advice.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') good bowel movement is worth 2 posts. Blowing your nose into a napkin is with .5.


Please, go take a shit and blow your nose at the same time.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere's my advice: turn off the computer and do 25 pushups.

Again, I do hope you don't find it too hard to take your own advice.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby mmasters » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 23:40:14

You sound lost and depressed.

In any case like attracts like, similar minds come here to share thoughts collectively. The internet is a remarkable invention, best to enjoy it now while it's relatively open and not corrupted and controlled. It is a gift to those of us that are mental explorers.

You want to engage the sheep or shovel manure. Enjoy.

Peak oil isn't the end. There is more to all of this than is apparent right now.

You must realize there is more to existance than the physical world! It is a low level of existance.

As well, the Cascades aren't necessarily going to do you any favors, it is geologically the #1 most dangerous spot on the planet!
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby perdition79 » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 23:51:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'I')f you think about it, what good is it? What are the benefits, personally, of the next 1000 posts to this board, the next 500 threads? Lets not kid ourselves, this site is a black hole where you throw time and energy.


This site is about 45 minutes a week of free therapy for me; a sanctuary for me to enjoy the fact that I'm not the only sane person in this insane world.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 23:55:32

:oops:

Sorry for wasting more time.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby Concerned » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 15:37:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'W')hat I'm trying to say is that this site is a colossal waste of everyone's time, 99% of the time, and that "real life", accessible, relevant, important exists outside of it. To that extent, nothing that is said or done on this site matters. Seriously.


Well if you want to take it a step farther then even so called "real life" does not matter.

We all die.

The sun will expand to encompass the earths orbit in about five billion years time.

Unless you see your neural network getting grafted on to some sort of computer device and then humanity colonizing the galaxy and universe then it's pretty much *yawn* for everything isn't it.

Thats why so many people believe in an afterlife with eternal heaven or hell type scenarios. Without that concept life reveals itself as the pointless waste of time, eating, excreting and breeding that it is.

Now Im off to do those 25 life changing push ups.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby efarmer » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 16:52:16

Lovelock created Gaia to animate world processes so that
they could be explained and accepted by humans better.
Similarly, Geppetto had a dandy block of pine given to him,
and carved Pinocchio. Gaia and Pinocchio are sort of similar
in some ways, but I would rate Gaia as being much better
looking and smarter. (She makes crickets instead of murdering
them and she didn't fall asleep on a volcano and burn her
tootsies off so Lovelock had to make her another pair.)
Gaia and Pinocchio are very different, in that Pinocchio sold
Geppetto for 5 gold coins and Gaia brought a huge chunk of
change home for Lovelock. Gaia is a net fiscal positive mythical
character and Pinocchio is a money losing chunk of pine who
ain't even worth his potential cellulosic alcohol content, even
if you mulched the residuals. Both stories tell us how inevitable
it is that we shall be created, exposed to the bogey man and get
nibbled on and perhaps chewed too, and then to live happily ever after until we don't or can't somehow.


But you BlisteredWhippet, you have violated the sequence of
our savory story with this cynical post. You have raised your
dauber in doubt and pissed on our hand woven threads.
The steps, BW, the beauty is in the steps!

1. Is there a bogey man?
2. If I talk of the bogey man will people listen?
3. If they listen to me talk of the bogey man can
I sell a book or get paid for this?
4. Can I keep the bogey man in style and current
so he can be like a rock star or movie star and
put out movies or albums or even do greatest hits
type of things? (Bogey man manager, enthusiasts,
booking agents, expert witnesses, quotable victims, etc.
etc. etc. The bogey man's entourage put a bunch of good
people to work. You ingrate, BW.)
5. All the others who channel the bogey man are fakes,
I alone have authentic bogey man fear on tap for a fee.
6. Danm, I think I see the bogey man.
7. Oh hell, the bogey man is here and he's a big guy and
is really pissed off. The bogey man won't even make eye
contact with me.
8. Owww. The bogey man is kicking my ass and it hurts.
They never told me the bogey man is a biter.
9. The bogey man has moved on, and we are starting to heal.
10. Does anyone want to buy a book about my experiences
at the hands of the bogey man?
11. I am an old man now, with a tear in my eye, giving a speech
about the awful times way back when, when we were at the
meager mercy of the awful bogey man, and how this was the
most invigorating time of our lives.
12. Oblivion, the real deal comes and wrecks the story for good
but on an individual basis, unless you qualify for dieoff group
events.

Therefore BlisteredWhippet, I demand you hang your headress
up, and drop your cynical carcass to the floor and grunt us
out twenty good ones. You wrecked our story between steps
5 and 6 because you got bored during intermission instead of
getting popcorn and taking a leak like you were supposed to do,
you dissed the faith in our movement. Shame BW, shame.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby drew » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 17:42:04

Come on, this place has an enormously important function!

It keeps me properly and thoroughly depressed.

I don't even need to drink or otherwise fuck up my life.

I just come here........



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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 19:57:15

The death watch of peakoil.com has officially begun.

Lodoners did not sit around discussing the German bombing of Manchester in 1940 for the duration of the war. I don't see the point in a frivolous blizzard of cute emoticons as a bunch of amateur persons

Even if "Peak Oil" is important enough to be remembered or talked about, it doesn't justify coming here. You people should be endeavoring to save mankind, or some shit. But you're not. Goddamn it, this is a convention for the mediocre. You have an internet connection? Does this make you an expert on anything?

My contention is that this is not a public sphere, in terms equating with the consequences of taking your views really public. That is, making real change in yourself, or the world. You don't get "equivalent credit" for coming here. Your job as disagreenik is to go try to change a "wet brain". Nobody believes anyone else on the internet! Have you been let in on the joke yet?

As a technology, this forum format is utterly obsolete... covering an obsolete subject. Not that any of you are capable of realizing that.

The public has heard the issues: they are not interested. Who, exactly, comes here to debate minutiae besides the lilliputian? I am saying that the content of Peakoil.com is 99% Navel gazing. I have never had the displeasure of conversing with such a deluded bunch of saps since I logged onto the Toilet Bowl BBS circa 1990... For a thousand posts, you get to be an "expert".

Guess what, fucktards! You aren't experts in anything! You are a bunch of computer jockeys!

The site is proof that a disconnected, anonymous assembly of individualists cannot by some literary synergy, co-evolve. None of this disparate talk about economics, ecology, or lifestyle really makes any difference whatsoever. I question the validity of anyone's "breakthrough" as a result of reading posts on this website.

I am asking: why participate in peakoil.com to begin with?

Do you seriously think that anyone with a LIFE- that is, interested in SPENDING HIS HOURS AND DAYS ON EARTH IN RELATIVELY GOOD HEALTH- would prefer the company of a bunch of virtual keyboard jockeys?? This contrast becomes colossally absurd in relation to the events and issues this forum has discussed.

When the shit hits the fan, as it will for all of us in unpredictable and utterly personal ways, how could the value of participating here actually matter?

What I'm saying here is this: This site rewards people who spend their lives in front of a computer. A forum that stores and dissemates 1000 worthless postings is a boon to someone who has a 1000 worthless things to say. For someone who lives in the "REAL WORLD", that same effect is NOT helpful.

SOMETIMES there are good posts. SOME posters are cool. MOST are NOT!

But if you can't find them, whats the point? If they're BURIED in 50+ page threads, its more trouble than its worth to find useful information, period. Peakoil.com is facing a crisis of relevancy as well as function. It is its own worst enemy.

What this site needs is not wooden-brained "ADMINS", but REAL EDITORS. It needs a format which DOES discriminate between REAL INFORMATION, and some jackass's need to mark his territory.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby Pops » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 20:00:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'W')hat I'm trying to say is that this site is a colossal waste of everyone's time, 99% of the time..

I agree.

But you might have noticed over your last several years here, the effort to provide a resource.

I am hoping members will commit 99% of their time to building The Wiki.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 20:12:09

I have never found a more interesting cluster of perspectives in any of my travels.

What is the purpose of life if not to have some fellowship with like-minded people?

When you have out of the way views, what a blessing the internet is to allow those with similar views to come together.

The purpose of this forum is not to solve problems (though I'm sure some problems are solved)--it's more to share thoughts and feelings about this strange and uncertain world we live in.

Is it a waste of time? Compared to what?

Compared to playing with your kids, it is a waste of time.

Compared to watching tv, it is not a waste of time.

Compared to reading a good book, it is probably a waste of time.

Compared to reading the latest pop fiction, it is not a waste of time.

If you are feeling addicted to a conversation, does that mean that it is a conversation that is not worth having?
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 21:28:18

BW, you sound terribly angry that this site hasn't cured your problems. The despair in your post is very evident.
Perhaps you would be happier if you started your own site-one where you could have total control of content, and restrict your poster's Right to Free Speech.
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby drew » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 21:37:49

Oh I almost forgot, now that I'm not screwing around: PO.com has probably made me 20 grand or so.

Also stopped me from doing stupid things like buying a kit airplane.

Or going deeply into debt....

From buying the kit airplane..

I guess I've never bothered strategising about my future either....

Funny though, the half acre of land the house isn't sitting on might come in handy....

No it won't, I'll buy a condo instead.

Hey maybe my conversations with Mr Bill et al. have had no effect on my decisions at all, especially in the recent 6 months AKA the house bubble burst.

Reading all the funny shit here, and debating, while keeping up on my penmanship isn't good either.

Yes, a complete utter waste of time.

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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby yeahbut » Mon 25 Feb 2008, 06:14:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'T')he death watch of peakoil.com has officially begun.

Goddamn it, this is a convention for the mediocre.

As a technology, this forum format is utterly obsolete... covering an obsolete subject. Not that any of you are capable of realizing that.

I have never had the displeasure of conversing with such a deluded bunch of saps since I logged onto the Toilet Bowl BBS circa 1990... For a thousand posts, you get to be an "expert".

Guess what, fucktards! You aren't experts in anything! You are a bunch of computer jockeys!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

there's a few more emoticons from another lilliputian BW...I for one thoroughly enjoyed that outburst, I nominate it for it most articulate angry rant in a long time...I think some of the reactions to it are just a wee bit precious. Surely most intelligent posters here have at least once thought to themselves, what the hell is any of this actually achieving? Mr Angry there has just articulated those thoughts. Fair enough I reckon. And damned funny.

Ok, I'm done for now. Cool- one post closer to being an expert!
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby Concerned » Mon 25 Feb 2008, 07:17:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'T')he death watch of peakoil.com has officially begun.

Goddamn it, this is a convention for the mediocre.

As a technology, this forum format is utterly obsolete... covering an obsolete subject. Not that any of you are capable of realizing that.

I have never had the displeasure of conversing with such a deluded bunch of saps since I logged onto the Toilet Bowl BBS circa 1990... For a thousand posts, you get to be an "expert".

Guess what, fucktards! You aren't experts in anything! You are a bunch of computer jockeys!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

there's a few more emoticons from another lilliputian BW...I for one thoroughly enjoyed that outburst, I nominate it for it most articulate angry rant in a long time...I think some of the reactions to it are just a wee bit precious. Surely most intelligent posters here have at least once thought to themselves, what the hell is any of this actually achieving? Mr Angry there has just articulated those thoughts. Fair enough I reckon. And damned funny.

Ok, I'm done for now. Cool- one post closer to being an expert!


Hahaha hell yeah awesome rant :) That should get a few weeks in Post of the week. Hilarious and it would show we all have a sense of humor. Someone use the batphone and call Aaron :)
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby Concerned » Mon 25 Feb 2008, 07:27:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', '
')Yes, a complete utter waste of time.


hehe agree totally. This site has opened so many doors to new information and different perspectives.

I think the original poster is just upset that there is no real "solution" to PO except power down type scenarios. He sounds pretty miffed about it all and is just taking it out on all of us.

Oh well in a weird sort of way I still love these types of frustrated, angry, repressed posts. It's a signal like a coming of age time. We might not be getting anything out of it but I think if the OP decides to never visits this site again he has grown his view of the world.

I think PO.com is like standing on the shoulders of giants there are big giants like Monte, JD, GG3, DantesPeak and MrBill and there are countless of small nuggets of priceless information from posters too numerous to remember and mention.

Personally I couldn't think of a better place to spend or waste my time, for me it's perfect. (Think cherry blossoms finishing the poem in The Last Samurai... "perfect")
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Re: Hello everyone

Unread postby skyemoor » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 09:39:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '
')When the shit hits the fan, as it will for all of us in unpredictable and utterly personal ways, how could the value of participating here actually matter?

SOMETIMES there are good posts. SOME posters are cool.


Either you will be prepared or you will suffer the fate of those who are in denial. We have the PFTF forum where people can share what they are doing to prepare. If that is a waste of time for you, then go off and prepare on your own, or blindly wait for the slow motion train crash.

This site is what each of us makes of it, not unlike life in general.
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