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Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 09:24:14

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ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error... The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all...

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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 09:30:08

Why would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.
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Unread postby kam3Oen » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 11:21:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


Perhaps they don't want the country swamped by third world immigrants at a time of economic collapse. Or perhaps they'd just rather vote for a guy who looks like they do, like the black voters.
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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby Quinny » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 11:22:13

What's your problem with unions?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


As if you have not noticed that union membership is at a all-time low. Never been lower than it is now! Time to celebrate. Death to unions! GOOD RIDDANCE!

A good example is Camillus knives. Been around forever and a day. The employees voted to unionize. THE OWNER CLOSED UP SHOP! Camillus knives is no more. I honor his decision. Greedy employees who wanted more are now out of work. HA-HA!
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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 11:40:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


As if you have not noticed that union membership is at a all-time low. Never been lower than it is now! Time to celebrate. Death to unions! GOOD RIDDANCE!

A good example is Camillus knives. Been around forever and a day. The employees, members of the USM, voted to strike.. THE OWNER CLOSED UP SHOP! Camillus knives is no more. I honor his decision. Greedy employees who wanted more are now out of work. HA-HA!

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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 11:43:16

Everything has an upside and a downside. My mom worked in a union job for years, now she draws a pension. I see no problem with worker solidarity. Unless you consider General Motors. When the system conks out, we all lose. C'est La Vie.
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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 11:43:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'E')RRR. What exactly do you like about them????

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'W')hat's your problem with unions?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


As if you have not noticed that union membership is at a all-time low. Never been lower than it is now! Time to celebrate. Death to unions! GOOD RIDDANCE!

A good example is Camillus knives. Been around forever and a day. The employees voted to unionize. THE OWNER CLOSED UP SHOP! Camillus knives is no more. I honor his decision. Greedy employees who wanted more are now out of work. HA-HA!


Union schools - better trained work force.
Higher wages.
Job protection.
Benefits.
Seniority rights.
Pension plans.
Higher management salaries. :razz:

Any more questions?
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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 11:54:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'E')RRR. What exactly do you like about them????

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'W')hat's your problem with unions?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


As if you have not noticed that union membership is at a all-time low. Never been lower than it is now! Time to celebrate. Death to unions! GOOD RIDDANCE!

A good example is Camillus knives. Been around forever and a day. The employees voted to unionize. THE OWNER CLOSED UP SHOP! Camillus knives is no more. I honor his decision. Greedy employees who wanted more are now out of work. HA-HA!


Union schools - better trained work force.
Higher wages.
Job protection.
Benefits.
Seniority rights.
Pension plans.
Higher management salaries. :razz:

Any more questions?

And then the best of all, no job when your demands are more than the boss is willing to cede to, and closes shop. Don't ya just love it?

Like lot's of non-union shops don't close?

Besides if your a skilled blue collar worker, you will find good work. I worked both shops and I'll tell ya, non-union sucks.
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Unread postby vision-master » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 12:03:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'E')RRR. What exactly do you like about them????

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'W')hat's your problem with unions?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


As if you have not noticed that union membership is at a all-time low. Never been lower than it is now! Time to celebrate. Death to unions! GOOD RIDDANCE!

A good example is Camillus knives. Been around forever and a day. The employees voted to unionize. THE OWNER CLOSED UP SHOP! Camillus knives is no more. I honor his decision. Greedy employees who wanted more are now out of work. HA-HA!


Union schools - better trained work force.
Higher wages.
Job protection.
Benefits.
Seniority rights.
Pension plans.
Higher management salaries. :razz:

Any more questions?

And then the best of all, no job when your demands are more than the boss is willing to cede to, and closes shop. Don't ya just love it?

Like lot's of non-union shops don't close?

Besides if your a skilled blue collar worker, you will find good work. I worked both shops and I'll tell ya, non-union sucks.

Of course non-union shops close. But usually not for something that is the employees fault. When a union shop closes to due excessive demands, that is the employees fault, and they got what is coming to them! No job, no money, SEE YA! Image

Well then. What ya do is take their jobs by working as an independent contractor. It's very simple. Union or Independent Contractor. :razz:
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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 12:23:16

Is this an ideological argument or a brass knuckles realist one? I'm convinced that the time is coming, and it won't be long that this is all old meat. Wake up and smell the maggots. They'll squirm for a while and then fill the sky. Hundreds of trillions of them. The sky will be black from Oklahoma to Minnesota.
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Unread postby Quinny » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 12:26:38

I've been both sides of the fence as a Regional rep for my Lecturers Union and as an employer of both unionised and non-unionised labour.

As an employee, I personally didn't earn as much in the unionised places I worked, but the general pay & conditions were better.

As an employer I found it much more productive dealing with a structured unionised labour force than non-unionised where petty politics continually raised it's head. We had a dispute in one of my companies (non-unionised) with a woman who was basically a professional tribunal attendee. Her union rep, who incidentally I didn't have a relationship with as he only had two members in the company, was the voice of reason and basically tried to persuade her to see sense and stop the action. His nn appearance at the tribuanl saved us thousands.
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Unread postby CarlosFerreira » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 17:23:43

Yeah. I might be proven wrong, but this one really feels like a close race:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Uncyclopedia', '"')Sure, when pollsters ask Newberry what condiment he'll be choosing, he says ketchup," explains Daniels. "But he's probably lying. Ketchup is obviously the socially acceptable answer. But when he gets up to the front of that line, he's going to know in his heart what he wants, and he's going to murmur 'shampoo, please' under his breath. Just you wait."



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Unread postby Ludi » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 18:16:27

Damn those unions that gave us the 5 day workweek and the 8 hour workday! Damn them!
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Unread postby Tanada » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 18:49:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')amn those unions that gave us the 5 day workweek and the 8 hour workday! Damn them!


I keep hoping for 4 days of 7 hours with the same weekly pay but somehow the Steelworkers keep failing me in this desire. Studies show that worker productivity starts to fall significantly after 7 hours, and who doesn't want a three day weekend every week? I have been working 6 days a week for the last 22 years, well to be fair for the last 11 it has been alternating weekends so I guess that is 5.5 on average. Sure would be nice to have three day weekends for the rest of my working life to make up for all those missed Saturdays.
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 21:41:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Union schools - better trained work force.


Tell that to all the inner city kids trapped in failing unionized schools.

Why is that the school districts in the big liberal cities in the liberal blue states with liberal teachers unions do such a terrible job of educating the inner city kids?

You'd think that after 40+ years of unmitigated academic failure, even liberals would start to notice the pattern of failure in unionized public inner city schools.
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Unread postby paimei01 » Sun 02 Nov 2008, 08:51:48

I say your elections are fake, and "they" are getting better at fixing them every time.
Make the candidates (which "they" picked anyway) be at 50% then it's too easy to use those mysterious voting machines so the right man wins. Only once did "they" made a mistake in fixing the elections and that was Kennedy.
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Unread postby vision-master » Sun 02 Nov 2008, 09:42:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Union schools - better trained work force.


Tell that to all the inner city kids trapped in failing unionized schools.

Why is that the school districts in the big liberal cities in the liberal blue states with liberal teachers unions do such a terrible job of educating the inner city kids?

You'd think that after 40+ years of unmitigated academic failure, even liberals would start to notice the pattern of failure in unionized public inner city schools.


or those unionized universities, eh.

Hire your local handyman or a licensed skilled trademan, you get what you pay for. :razz:
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Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Sun 02 Nov 2008, 11:37:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')amn those unions that gave us the 5 day workweek and the 8 hour workday! Damn them!


I keep hoping for 4 days of 7 hours with the same weekly pay but somehow the Steelworkers keep failing me in this desire. Studies show that worker productivity starts to fall significantly after 7 hours, and who doesn't want a three day weekend every week? I have been working 6 days a week for the last 22 years, well to be fair for the last 11 it has been alternating weekends so I guess that is 5.5 on average. Sure would be nice to have three day weekends for the rest of my working life to make up for all those missed Saturdays.


Lately, my best weeks are the ones I work all 7 days. Its only while I am at work I can get the crash off my mind. LOL. Generally my days are 9 hours long, but 10 or 11 isn't uncommon for me. I genuinely enjoy my work, so it really doesn't feel like work at all. In the past however I did work I didn't enjoy, and for that burnout comes quickly, 3 or 4 hours at best and you wanna get out of there.

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Re: Heads Exploding !!

Unread postby klystron » Sun 02 Nov 2008, 12:33:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy would a "blue collar" worker vote McCain? Repubs are anti-union.


Some plumbers are REALLY stupid.

I think the plumber is a bigot and is trying to come up with a reason to put in Mr. Iran Invader.
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Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Sun 02 Nov 2008, 13:53:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('klystron', '
')I think the plumber is a bigot


Do you think he attended a racist church for twenty years and called the bigot pastor his mentor??? If he did........your right, he is stupid and no one should listen to anything he utters!
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