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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Mon 27 Jan 2025, 14:30:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'I') doubt you will rise up over digital ID. Your overlords have been programing you blokes for the past twenty years.


All nations on Earth are forcing this on their people, including and especially the USA. I have no photo ID or drivers' license because I don't want to be in their facial recognition database. Because of the REAL ID act, all 50 states are putting all ID/DL applicants into a facial recognition database, which is being made available to the intelligence agencies, INTERPOL, state/local governments, and even commercial databrokers. My state of Missouri outlawed this, but did it anyway starting in 2013.

The biometric photo standard used is the ICAO9303 for the enrollment image. Passports, gov/military IDs, and most arrest mugshots taken are to the same standard. They use special cameras and force you to stand a specific distance away from the camera so it can map your face and grab your irises. Even states which have outlawed forced REAL ID compliance and/or are offering "non-compliant" IDs are putting applicants in the same database, taking the photos to the same international biometric standard. Companies such as Morphotrust/SAFRAN, IDEMIA, NEC, Gemalto, and 3M Cogent are getting access to the photos, and these same corporations have helped implement China's social credit scoring system, including at US taxpayer expense with the help of Homeland Security and DARPA.

That biometric photo is being tied into peoples' social media accounts as well. It's also being tied to medical records, job resumes, education history, arrest records/warrants, court cases, ect. Just by snapping a random picture of a crowd, the government wants to able to pull up any and all information they have on anyone in that crowd. In the USA, for over a decade the spooks have been using this tech to identify protestors without their knowledge or consent and without a warrant or court order, with the goal of expanding it to 24/7 real-time tracking of everyone by reading their face as a bar code.

I built vehicles that can function as cars but are legally bicycles for the precise reason of attempting(probably in vain) to bypass this bullshit.

By definition, free countries don't do this to their people in any which way, shape, or form.

In Australia, it's called "The Capability". In the US, it's REAL ID. All the same totalitarian bullshit. And it's global.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 27 Jan 2025, 18:53:02

Inke is just pissed off because Australia hasn't fallen into a hole like the US has. He pins his hopes on Trump because trump "said" he was all for bitcoin and because the BC herd traded a few more coins and pushed the price up. An election promise :roll:

You'd think after 30 years and more of hearing these bullshit proclamations before every election and seeing nothing improve afterwards the average sheeple would twig to the nonsense. But they don't? They just line up at the polling booth again and again like chickens at the feed trough. Trumps first term was achievement in NOTHING. The nation continued the inexorable decline, and why? Because it's energy starved. The cheap oil that built it is gone, gone with the wind, and with it all the increases in lifestyle that made the nation -temporarily- great. Australia's secret is no secret at all, abundant natural resources, Uranium, Gold, coal and Gas, Aluminium and rare earths, iron ore, copper, anything you can name, even Food in abundance.

Inke's real problem is being born in the wrong nation and not having the sense to emigrate when the window was open. Very hard for Yanks to come down here now and the ones we do have, I know a couple, are so grateful to have escaped the madness. Why is this old thread so barren of posts? Nothing to be happy about of course.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Tue 28 Jan 2025, 05:58:02

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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Tue 28 Jan 2025, 11:34:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'H')ow good is Deepseek......the best tech in the world for free


I love using AI to make eldtrich abominations.

I've been working on a 16-bit role playing game in a sci-fi/cosmic horror/biblical horror setting inspired by films such as Event Horizon, Hellraiser, Alien, Soylent Green, Blade Runner and books/stories such as Bordered In Black by Larry Niven, Sheep Look Up by John Brunner, and anything HP Lovecraft, as well as games like Chrono Trigger, Bloodborne, Dark Souls, and Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, where I draw all the sprites/art/effects myself, but I've been using AI to make some very disturbing concept images to reference when I do my own art.

Once the uncanny valley is crossed, we will lose a wonderful tool. By AI being so shitty, it makes the best abominations and horrors!

The game is titled "Echoes of the Forsaken Planet".

Here's some sample images of the AI-generated slop:

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The premise of the game is this,

Your main character is a 12 year old boy named Grendel. The year is 1998. The game starts where you play as him shooting up his middle school, killing his classmates and the school staff, before being killed by police.

But it was all a dream. He awakens on a space vessel in the year 2598, landing on the planet Kepler-186F, with his family, for his parents' new job assignment. The long period of slumber on the flight makes people hallucinate and sometimes decades play out in their dreams. Grendel vividly remembers a life in 1990s USA, but awakens to a new world. The surface of the planet is Venus-like and uninhabitable, with 250F temperatures and an unbreathable atmosphere choked in CO2 and radioactive ash, but there used to be 10 billion people living on the surface as evidenced by the ruins of dense cityscapes and road infrastructure stretching across the horizon. There is only one last city on Kepler 186F, New Babylon, set in a climate-controlled dome roughly 20 miles wide and 3 miles high, containing 500 million people. New Babylon is a highly stratified Abrahamic theocracy, split into warring Christian, Jewish, and Islamic factions, and divided into 3 layers: ARCOBABEL as the central pillar in the dome containing multiple layers of farmland and suburbs for 500,000 people, the elite of society, the Middle Ring containing roughly 112 million people who live densely packed, subsist on 3D printed synthetic food, and have access to technology beyond the wildest imagination of those alive today, and the Lower Ring, the slums inside the sewers and junkyards where the rest of the population resides, living in near medieval conditions off of the garbage generated by the above layers.

Here's a background image I made of outside the dome with MS Paint 3D, first shown in the game's intro as the space vessel is docking, shortly after the school massacre:

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And of the Middle Ring, pre and post blackout, collages made using a mix of my own spritework and AI:

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And here's a sprite drawing of a roasted infant on a spit, shown in a scene where a bunch of starving cannibals skewer a baby through its anus and out its mouth, live, which are huddled around a trashbarrel fire roasting it:

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When my niece was an infant, I got some recordings of her throwing a tantrum, and I have modified the sound effects appropriately to make the infant scream when the cannibals "stick" it, live. :)

Early into the story, Grendel is separated from his family, and the power, food, water, and everything else have been cut off. There is one shuttle back to Earth, forever. As the chaos unfolds, Grendel joins other lost children, trying to make it to the shuttle, and the only adult willing to help them and protect them from the starving mobs is this creepy pedophile serial-killer clown named Hester the Scarecrow. The things that later occur defy logic, as supernatural horror begins to abound, among the backdrop of people feeding upon each other as starvation sets in.

Here's an excerpt from some of the writing I did, involving apparitions of all of the aborted fetuses to have existed, manifesting again physically and altered(this should give he religious right the warm 'n fuzzies):

"Reluctantly, she took her first step into the raw sewage. The horde of angry undead fetuses leapt up at her like fleas, perhaps 30 or 40 as it happened so fast it was hard to tell, coldly shrieking with the unnatural sounds of an otherworldly realm, sounding almost but not quite human.

Glistening with mucus, splattered with excrement, covered in blood, and dripping with all of the foul substances contained within the sewage, they tore into her flesh like piranhas. Lucrecia frantically swatted at them and screamed in agony, flailing about as if she'd been doused in gasoline and set ablaze. She leaped backwards in fear, contorting in odds ways unbefitting for such a frail young girl, instinctively tearing them off of her, throwing them to the ground and stomping them with as much force as her small, delicate frame could muster in a frenzied staccato. They splattered into a mess of unidentifiable pieces of organs.

The remainder crawled back into the muck from whence they came like slugs, dragging their umbilical cords and leaving a trail of the fetid slime they were covered in.

Hester, the always jovial adult in the room, looked at her, then looked at Grendel, and smiled.

"Aww geez. You know what the hardest part about swimming in a pool full of dead babies is?"

Grendel wasn't even paying attention, having lost the ability to even feel fear after everything he'd been through.

Hester waited for a few seconds and lustfully eyed the two preteen children as Lucrecia was bent over crying, bleeding from a myriad of places all over her body and face, open sores visible where the fetuses had torn into her flesh, having been traumatized yet more from this Godforsaken place. Grendel remained silent, unfazed from even seeing his first and only love sobbing in pain and bleeding all over her body.

The clown then cheerfully responded, "HIDING YOUR ERECTION!"
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 28 Jan 2025, 17:05:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'H')ow good is Deepseek......the best tech in the world for free

It's pulled the curtain off the latest stock market bubble and corporate ripoff.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat makes DeepSeek so special is the company's claim that it was built at a fraction of the cost of industry-leading models like OpenAI - because it uses fewer advanced chips. That possibility caused chip-making giant Nvidia to shed almost $600bn (£482bn) of its market value on Monday - the biggest one-day loss in US history.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yv5976z9po

I tested ChatGPT vs DeepSeek with 7 prompts — here’s the surprising winner https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/i-tested-c ... ing-winner

DeepSeek killed it hands down. I have never thought much of A.I. To me it's not artificial intelligence at all, just smart computer algorithms. Like chess computers. You punch in all the possible moves, all the data, and let it find the best solution by projecting the outcomes of the various choices. So yes they are very smart, but like the "Smart Phone" their repercussions on society will probably be negative. A billion people hunched over their screens doing pointless activities when they could be out in the sunshine enjoying the natural world.

I though this AI bubble, which is the replacement for the EV and renewables bubble, which was the replacement for the shale oil bubble, which was the replacement for the housing bubble, which was the replacement for the dotcom bubble, would last at least 5 years? But perhaps the wheels will fall off it a lot sooner. It's pretty easy to spot these bubbles now, they go mainstream and are all over the TV. The politicians get behind them and the President chatters on screen about them. The StarGate bullshit Trump has been pushing was a classic sign. make America Great, just like the EV crap and the Shale oil crap.

The Chinese are killing it technologically, just as the US did back in the early to mid 20th century. Why? Because they are an emerging power, not a degenerate old power. In the old degenerate empire all anyone thinks about is their own pleasure, "What can I get out of this". They don't want to put much effort in, they don't really want to work at all! But in a rising empire people are motivated, prepared to self-sacrifice. It's an old old story, you can see it in every Empire throughout history.

I'm part of the old empire too, though on the periphery. And I couldn't give a shit about it. I just want my pleasures, to hell with personal sacrifice. China has the MoJo and Russia has the the natural resources, as do all the other BRICS. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India (slave labor) Iran! They are the next great Empire for sure, the replacement for the Judaeo-Christian West which was worn itself out.

Spain/Portugal, Britain/French/Dutch/German, USA.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Wed 29 Jan 2025, 20:45:40

The Sputnik moment
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 30 Jan 2025, 05:37:57

They wrote the book on it.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate. Sun Tzu

Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt. When they are strong, avoid them. If they have high morale, depress them. Seem humble to fill them with conceit. If they are at ease, exhaust them. If united, separate them. Attack their weaknesses.

The endless "seemingly pointless" circling and circling of Taiwan? TicTok, to undermine the moral of Western youth? The mass Chinese immigration into America and Australia and Canada, fifth columns?
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Top Countries by Population of Chinese Immigrants:
1. Indonesia -25 million

Why does China invest in Indonesia?
This trend is primarily driven by Indonesia's abundant natural resources, vast consumer market, and strategic location: Resource-rich economy: Indonesia possesses abundant natural resources, including nickel, copper, and coal, which are attractive to Chinese industries.

Why is poverty high in Indonesia?
~ Oxfam 2024
The vast majority of the land is owned by big corporations and rich people who get all the benefits. Likewise, the education system is underfunded and there are barriers to equal access, which means many Indonesian workers cannot access higher-skilled and higher-paid jobs.

Nov 13, 2023 — Chinese companies' direct investment in the country reached $8.23 billion in 2022, a year-on-year jump of 160 percent, reaching a record high.

Quora..
A study by the University of Indonesia found that ethnic Chinese own about 70% of the top private companies.
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And people worry about the Jews...
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Thu 30 Jan 2025, 22:05:57

Chinese Indonesians are the fourth largest community of Overseas Chinese in the world after Thailand, Malaysia, and the United States.

Resentment of ethnic Chinese economic aptitude grew in the 1950s as Native Indonesian merchants felt they could not remain competitive.
Under the Suharto government backed by the United States during the Cold War, systematic massacres against ethnic Chinese occurred in the name of "anti-communism". Later, government action propagated the stereotype that ethnic Chinese-owned conglomerates were corrupt.

The Chinese Indonesian population of Java accounts for nearly half of the group's national population. They are generally more urbanized than Indonesia's indigenous population but significant rural and agricultural communities still exist throughout the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Indonesians
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby careinke » Fri 31 Jan 2025, 05:20:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I')nke is just pissed off because Australia hasn't fallen into a hole like the US has. He pins his hopes on Trump because trump "said" he was all for bitcoin and because the BC herd traded a few more coins and pushed the price up. An election promise :roll:

You'd think after 30 years and more of hearing these bullshit proclamations before every election and seeing nothing improve afterwards the average sheeple would twig to the nonsense. But they don't? They just line up at the polling booth again and again like chickens at the feed trough. Trumps first term was achievement in NOTHING. The nation continued the inexorable decline, and why? Because it's energy starved. The cheap oil that built it is gone, gone with the wind, and with it all the increases in lifestyle that made the nation -temporarily- great. Australia's secret is no secret at all, abundant natural resources, Uranium, Gold, coal and Gas, Aluminium and rare earths, iron ore, copper, anything you can name, even Food in abundance.

Inke's real problem is being born in the wrong nation and not having the sense to emigrate when the window was open. Very hard for Yanks to come down here now and the ones we do have, I know a couple, are so grateful to have escaped the madness. Why is this old thread so barren of posts? Nothing to be happy about of course.


speaking of weird cultures, you will have to tell us how you enjoy Australia's upcoming celebration.

Going to get a lot worse’: Pauline Hanson blasts joint Invasion Day, pro-Palestine protests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6mkTJRARaY&list=TLPQMzEwMTIwMjVkXwsj33I_xQ&index=2

I'm sure your Nazi's will enjoy attacking Australian Jews along with the Palestinian Jew Haters. Oh wait, it is illegal for you to criticize your own government. I forgot that's why you only bash the US. Maybe you should just not respond to this post, I enjoy your unintentional humor.

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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 31 Jan 2025, 05:28:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')I'm sure your Nazi's will enjoy attacking Australian Jews along with the Palestinian Jew Haters. Oh wait, it is illegal for you to criticize your own government. I forgot that's why you only bash the US. Maybe you should just not respond to this post, I enjoy your unintentional humor.

Inke has a mouth full of sour grapes :lol:
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby careinke » Fri 31 Jan 2025, 05:30:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'H')ow good is Deepseek......the best tech in the world for free


I love the fact it is open source; some geeks have already modified it so it can be run on US based crypto. Some of the claims made by the Chinese company maybe slightly exaggerated. Still, I consider it a "Sputnik Moment."

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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby careinke » Fri 31 Jan 2025, 05:42:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')I'm sure your Nazi's will enjoy attacking Australian Jews along with the Palestinian Jew Haters. Oh wait, it is illegal for you to criticize your own government. I forgot that's why you only bash the US. Maybe you should just not respond to this post, I enjoy your unintentional humor.

Inke has a mouth full of sour grapes :lol:


LOL, actually I'm Very Happy and glad I'm in the United States right now. Everything is improving very quickly. We no longer fund cutting dicks off of minor children, allow male prisoners to serve their time in female prisons, label parents terrorists, or require DEI in government agencies.

Yes, I am very happy.

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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby careinke » Fri 31 Jan 2025, 05:49:12

Toecutter,

Your game looks pretty cool. My eldest son (45 YO) is a pretty big gamer and computer smart. When you get to Beta level, I'm sure he would want to try it out.

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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 31 Jan 2025, 17:14:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'T')oecutter,

Your game looks pretty cool. My eldest son (45 YO) is a pretty big gamer and computer smart. When you get to Beta level, I'm sure he would want to try it out.

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It's nothing special from a technical perspective. It's a 16-bit jRPG that will play almost identically to the Super Nintendo game Chrono Trigger. Except with my own story, characters, and art.

It's intended to be the most horrific setting and story I can think of, while also being as viscerally disgusting, offensive and as politically incorrect as possible. Good cosmic horror has people wanting to kill themselves from depression while simultaneously has them wanting to hunt down the creator for thoroughly shattering their worldview. It needs to make them feel empty inside when they complete the story, as if their very existence is meaningless and inconsequential, regardless of the choices they make. By making such a dark sci-fi setting, and making most of the main characters as small children, it makes it easy to compound the hopelessness, horror, and dread into something that is unbearable to see while simultaneously too interesting to look away.

I'm trying to blend aesthetics from medieval dark fantasy, horror, as well as cyberpunk, and make a story that I haven't seen anyone do before. Joseph Campbell's generic and overdone hero's journey is not going to be applicable here, even though I wish to channel within whatever audience a narrative that is still every bit as universal and relatable to the human condition, one which is rarely exposed, nearly universally and unconsciously suppressed, and which makes people very uncomfortable or even enraged to acknowledge the existence of.

It is also a very Satanic game. I seek to introduce the player to many occult concepts and teachings. It is intentionally going to be racist, mysogynistic, anti-Semitic, ultra-violent, highly controversial, and tackles subjects such as cannibalism, rape, torture, pedophilia, "woke" politics, religion, terrorism, lifeboat ethics, the occult, all in ways relevant to real world conflicts and events, and all in highly offensive, non-subtle, horrible, insensitive, disgusting, and non-delicate ways, not because I hold the sorts of views presented in this project per se, so much that I believe that any form of creative expression in fiction should have the right to exist without censorship regardless of what the rest of the world thinks about it or what any laws say. Fiction is fiction. It's my story that I made and I'm going to tell it, and fuck anyone who thinks I shouldn't. And this project itself will be a giant FUCK YOU to anyone who wants to censor it, and all haters that are formed in the process of playing it should this project be released.

After all, that is what art is supposed to do. Provoke uncomfortable thoughts and feelings, challenge preconcieved notions about the world, and stimulate controversy.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Wed 19 Feb 2025, 22:46:18

Just ordered a whole lot of stuff from Alibaba to help secure my netting for the veg garden beds it should be in this week.
Our major problems are fruit flys caterpillars and grasshoppers and this year the bush turkey worked out there was good digging to be had in the beds.
So the beds will be reworked as wicking beds
Im buying pond liner and milk crates that will be wrapped in geo tex
Then refill will soil
Im trying to just have a ready supply of varied tomatoes and peppers, spring onions,rocket,lettuces ,Asian greens,beans,heaps of parsley (for Lebanese salads),sweet potatoes ,cucumbers ,pumpkins,water melons and corn.
Its not going to give me the sustainable calories,its for variety freshness and fun....provide most of the day to day veg that gets topped up with the stuff that takes up too much room and takes to long to grow ...that I will buy
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 20 Feb 2025, 09:10:26

Good for you.

I would bet it does your heart and head good also.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 10 Mar 2025, 16:58:15

I tried the home garden thing, I quit when I realized I was basically making the equivalent of a dollar an hour for all the labor put into it. That's factoring in the 2/3 you give away to neighbors too, since you can never eat it all. I think I spend $20 a week now at the local grocer and last week it was $30 since I bought a big bag of dates that were on special. I can't grow dates here, or bananas, too cold, or apples really. When I was growing up backyard gardens were just going out of vogue, they were a holdover from the great Depression when it made sense, when money was tight. It might get tight again down here but at the moment I'm happy to have the supermarket supply my needs, and keep my hands clean and my back free of aches.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 25 Mar 2025, 17:47:32

I guess this is a happy thought, PO is online again.
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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 26 Mar 2025, 19:46:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') tried the home garden thing, I quit when I realized I was basically making the equivalent of a dollar an hour for all the labor put into it.


Sounds about right for the value of your thinking about it.

Did you make more when you did your other job?

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Re: Happy Talk

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 26 Mar 2025, 19:48:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'I') guess this is a happy thought, PO is online again.


The even more entertaining thought is remembeer when all those old PO's were supposed to bring everything to a halt? And now all we have is normal software hiccups, and cars that don't need gasoline.

On that topic, EV #2 arrived yesterday. Woo-Hoo! Will probably sell #1 now, neither of the kids want it.
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