[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')utch right-wing politician Geert Wilders has posted a controversial film critical of Islam's holy book, the Koran, on the internet.
The opening scenes show a Koran, followed by footage of the attacks on the US on 11 September 2001.

The 15-minute film was posted on a video-sharing website.

Its planned release had sparked angry protests in Muslim countries. The Dutch government has dissociated itself from Mr Wilders' views.

The film is called "Fitna", a Koranic term sometimes translated as "strife". Dutch broadcasters have declined to show it.

Images from the bomb attacks on London in July 2005 and Madrid in March 2004 are also shown.

[Bas]

here's the link to the movie:

http://www.themoviefitna.com/

*disclaimer, could be insulting to Muslims and I disasociate myself from the contends of this movie*

edit: first reactions are that the movie is not as shocking/insulting as first expected.

[americandream]

You could do something along these lines with all religions. I dunno what this Dutch dude's getting so excited about.

Waste of money and time if you ask me. Anyoner with half a brain would know that Islam and all religions in general are a pack of fuedalistic mumbo jumbo.

[Drake]

Well, some are more mumbo jumbo than others.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '
')*disclaimer, could be insulting to Muslims and I disasociate myself from the contends of this movie*

[mos6507]

These guys swinging swords calling for beheading Jews make Reverend Wright look like MLK.

[3aidlillahi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')*disclaimer, could be insulting to Muslims and I disasociate myself from the contends of this movie*

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drake', 'W')ell, some more are more mumbo jumbo than others.

[gampy]

The movie isn't all that offensive, really. But I am not a muslim, so I can't speak to that.
As polemic/propaganda, it's rather crude, and unsophisticated.
I have seen better from Aryan/Nazi groups, and 9/11 Truthers.

What I find rather disturbing is that it's being censored by the Dutch government, and internet providers. That is scarier than the film.
I guess these entities fear the Muslim horde as much as the film-maker.

That should tell you more about the issue than the film itself. It actually helps this guys argument.

[3aidlillahi]

Bas, you mind watching this: [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791359249679972786&q=fitna&total=981&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2]Muslim reaction to film
[/url] And then relating it to us? We don't speak Dutch.

[kakkerlak]

The entire purpose of this movie is to create fear and hate.

The result of showing the 9/11 attacks, a crying women, a lot of blood, a few angry imams and some well chosen quotes from the Koran is a negative emotional response. And the popularity of Geert Wilders is the direct result of these emotions.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I') dunno what this Dutch dude's getting so excited about.

[bl00k]

Well at least one thing is clear, Wilders doesn't have a clue when it comes to Peak Oil. He's even pissing off quite a few oil-producing nations. But he would definitely be in favor of reducing reliance of oil coming from Islamic countries. Maybe not for the right reasons but hell, anything that gets us of oil will do!

[bl00k]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', 'B')as, you mind watching this: [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791359249679972786&q=fitna&total=981&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2]Muslim reaction to film
[/url] And then relating it to us? We don't speak Dutch.

[deMolay]

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020472.php

[Plantagenet]

I saw it yesterday when it was released. Its overdone and melodramatic by US production standards, but then its mainly targetted at the Dutch audience.

[3aidlillahi]

[url=http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic38035.html]Mods, please merge.
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[3aidlillahi]

[url=http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic38035.html]Mods, please merge.
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threads merged - Bas

[Plantagenet]

The Dutch fears about this movie seem to have been exaggerated, so far. No riots, no bombings, no murders have occurred.

Everything in it seems to be factual (even if those those facts aren't all "PC").

The quotes from the Koran and Sura are respectfully done, with a beautiful Koran being read in Arabic and the translation shown beside the book.

Just your basic unpopular free speech.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')*disclaimer, could be insulting to Muslims and I disasociate myself from the contends of this movie*

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kakkerlak', 'T')he entire purpose of this movie is to create fear and hate.