by shortonsense » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 11:44:44
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')Look at it this way....we're at PO +4, heading into PO +5 next week, and we've got electricity to post on internet forums, natural gas aplenty to heat our homes, gasoline and diesel to travel on anywhere in America we wish, to power our sports cars or personal aircraft, I mean seriously, farewell decade 00's, may the incoming decades resource depletion regime treat us even better than the last, hugs and kisses to even the pstarrs for at least the rest of the week.
This happens in smaller and smaller circles. You still happen to be inside
the circled wagons. But the Bottom 90% are getting crushed.
Mcgowan, I disagree, and to date have not been able to verify a single one of your claims in any reasonable sized population, and you have provided no information which might lead one to believe that this crushing is taking place in only enclaves where I don't happen to live, travel, or have any relatives in. Also, we have to talk about your definition of "crushed" coming from a guy who thinks that 50 million Americans are starving ( if true, I would certainly agree that this is being crushed ) except of course, they aren't.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')Note the Depression started Xmas 07.
What Depression? You mean, the recession which apparently stopped being a recession 3rd quarter 2009?
by mcgowanjm » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 12:02:00
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')Look at it this way....we're at PO +4, heading into PO +5 next week, and we've got electricity to post on internet forums, natural gas aplenty to heat our homes, gasoline and diesel to travel on anywhere in America we wish, to power our sports cars or personal aircraft, I mean seriously, farewell decade 00's, may the incoming decades resource depletion regime treat us even better than the last, hugs and kisses to even the pstarrs for at least the rest of the week.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')This happens in smaller and smaller circles. You still happen to be inside
the circled wagons. But the Bottom 90% are getting crushed.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')Mcgowan, I disagree, and to date have not been able to verify a single one of your claims in any reasonable sized population, and you have provided no information which might lead one to believe that this crushing is taking place in only enclaves where I don't happen to live, travel, or have any relatives in. Also, we have to talk about your definition of "crushed" coming from a guy who thinks that 50 million Americans are starving ( if true, I would certainly agree that this is being crushed ) except of course, they aren't.
First, I love this site. The best intelligentsia around.
Second, the above from a guy, SoS, who denied the USDA
50 million starving report, until I posted it.
Third, when do unemployed and their children (0ne in Two
ALL children on FOOD stamps) stop being hungry?
22% Unemployed. How many before a Depression?
Xmas Retail down 13% over 2008, itself a down year.
1/3 of Americans took a pay cut this year.
Full story: WJW Fox 8 Cleveland
Recession Woes: Could You Get By on a 40% Pay Cut? Gregory Karp November 29, 2009 Could you live with a 40 percent pay cut? That's likely what many Americans are doing as they return to work but suffer huge reductions in pay, said Kenneth Couch, an economics professor at the University of Connecticut.
The Worst harvest in US History even as the USDA says we had the second largest. Of course you won't find any of this. You're
going out of your way NOT to. Just like the MSM.
The Truth replaced by silence is evil. And note how fast the Fed/MSM have moved on this False Flag out of Detroit.
Bomb. Terror. Yemen. ALL unsourced. But ALL run up the flag pole.
BOO.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')Note the Depression started Xmas 07.
by shortonsense » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 12:26:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')Second, the above from a guy, SoS, who denied the USDA
50 million starving report, until I posted it.
I denied your representation of the report, in that 50 million Americans are not starving, and the report did not say that 50 million Americans were starving, but you continue to claim that they are.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')22% Unemployed. How many before a Depression?
The Depression had more. And your 22% is inflated by burger flippers upset that they can't do brain surgery, as well as my son who thinks that 10 year olds should qualify as computer programmers and collect their attendant wages because he plays Halo pretty well.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')Xmas Retail down 13% over 2008, itself a down year.
I certainly don't think anyone can say that with any accuracy at this point in time. Considering in particular that holiday sales are continuing as we speak and haven't even had the opportunity to be counted yet. You are aware of the shift of holiday shopping to include even post holiday sales nowadays, aren't you?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')1/3 of Americans took a pay cut this year.
by shortonsense » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 12:29:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')I posted a cogent heartfelt (though dark and cynical) summary of how I feel the 00's went down. That little psychotic toad responded with a clip of Charlie Manson ranting in jail. Nothing I say, suggest, or recommend has has ever resembled Charlie Mansion.
Some of us may beg to differ of course. But love ya this week anyway pstarr!
It's fun when It's not directed at you?
Cheers
Happy Holidays!! May your fossil fuel consumption be unrestricted, and your mitigation strategies fruitful.
by mcgowanjm » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 13:00:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')I denied your representation of the report, in that 50 million Americans are not starving, and the report did not say that 50 million Americans were starving, but you continue to claim that they are.
You denied the whole thing. With zero asterisks. Don't make me go look for it.
And right there-"the report did not say"-yeah, semantics:
The USDA, said
49 million.sounds a WHOLE lot better than 50 million, eh Sos?
Like 10% sounds tons better than 22%, like 'recession' sounds way better than 'Depression'. Catching on to the Fed/MSM agitprop yet? Optimism is the opposite of reality, SoS.
And that USDA report is from 2008 and there's been 8 million-you won't find THAT # either, btw
-added to the 'hungry'
column since then,
which brings us to your next line:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')I certainly don't think anyone can say that with any accuracy at this point in time.
You aiming for Bernanke's job, cause he couldn't have said it better
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', 'C')onsidering in particular that holiday sales are continuing as we speak and haven't even had the opportunity to be counted yet. You are aware of the shift of holiday shopping to include even post holiday sales nowadays, aren't you?
You work for the FedRes dontcha? Sounds like you're one
of their apparatchiks. Stalin would be proud. Squirming like
a greased pig. Can you give me ANY numbers from Black Friday to Xmas Day?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', 'w')rote:
1/3 of Americans took a pay cut this year.
by shortonsense » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 14:12:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '
')I didn't say anything about a grand recovery, only that economic growth isn't defined as a depression in any scheme I have ever heard of, seen written about, or speculated on by a qualified professional....ever. Certainly the recent change in consumer behavior is a good thing, even though short term it is not the best thing for the economy.
Note the use of 'GRAND'. And
'qualified professional' LMFAO you are a comedian SoS. And who will judge? This ain't Harvard, this is the popular internet. Two entirely different things. I rest my case.
???
I say "qualified professional" because otherwise you'll reference a blog by some 16 year old using his moms computer which claims that because his favorite video game now costs $2 this week instead of $1 last week we are now suffering from massive hyperinflation, and pretend that this opinion is worthy of consideration.
As far as my careful use of words, it strikes me as completely appropriate in a world where others confuse "food insecurity" with starvation without even hiccuping at the obvious difference and expecting others to swallow such things without a second thought. Almost as though they are mistaking their fellow posters as sheeple.
Writing what you mean is critical in the internet world where there are no physical clues or quick corrections to bad information accidentally cut loose to be forever enshrined in some MYSQL database.
by shortonsense » Sun 27 Dec 2009, 17:36:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', ' ')I bet Sears starts lay offs Monday.
Is that a Bold Prediction?
His plateauing oil price at $167/bbl by Labor Day,2008 was better.
