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Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 22:51:43

My brother calls me up and tells me he locked his keys in his truck and asked if I would call pop-a-lock. "Sure no problem" says I.
I call a local number and after what seemed a long time it rings.
"Elo how may I elp you" 8O (heavy India accent)
Well I start to tell him I need a locksmith service and I'm getting this really bad echo of hearing my self talk. After about three sentences I lose it. "Where the hell is this echo coming from?!?!"
"Sir I opligize for the bad connection"
Let me tell you it's hard to talk on the phone when you are listening to yourself three words behind what you just said.
Anyways I tell him he is in a walgreens parking lot thats on the corner of Johnson st. and south college.
"Sir can you spell the name of the cross street?"
8O
"which one?"
"the one with the J"
j-o-h-n-s-o-n
"tank you sir"
So finaly I come to the end of the conversation and he is about to hang up.I have to ask him.
"where are you at? you personaly on the other end of this line"
" Sir we have a central office to answer all calls"
ok fine. " So where are you at? Are you in the United States?
"we have a central office to" YES YES you already said that but where are YOU at are you in the US?
"Sir do to security reasons we are not allowed to say where we are located"

We are so screwed!!! When you call a local number to get a local service and you have to go through a phone call on the other side of the world so they can in turn call another number back on this side of the world to have a guy 10 mins away go and meet someone in a parkinglot. THERE IS NO HOPE!!!!
If they have food shortages and start to die-off. I can't get a guy on the phone down the street to come help me out.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 23:30:01

For future reference it is Johnston street. And since the dispatcher is in India it might make a difference.

Really all this show is America is exporting every job that doesn't involve flipping burgers oversea. I remember when I first heard of the great American Service economy in Highschool. Some guest speaker was gushing on how it was great that Americans didn't need to make products anymore and that we provide the world with services. In my mind it was the biggest pile of horse crap ever. Try as I might I couldn't figure out why the world would need 300 million consultants. But to ask this guest speaker, every American would be hoping around the world being a consultant for this or that U.S. company. Mercantilism made more since to me then, it still does.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby BigTex » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 23:38:18

The next wave of outsourcing is going to be taking fast food orders in the drive through.

You will give your order to someone in India who will key it in and it will appear on the screen inside the restaurant to be prepared/assembled.

Think about how much that's going to piss people off.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 23:44:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'T')he next wave of outsourcing is going to be taking fast food orders in the drive through.

You will give your order to someone in India who will key it in and it will appear on the screen inside the restaurant to be prepared/assembled.

Think about how much that's going to piss people off.


:lol: I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Pops » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 23:51:51

A couple of bubbles ago was the one about communications, lots of fiber optics laid down and other stuff I know nothing about which seems to have been way overbuilt.

Just like a bubble or two before that was the one about just in time delivery.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 23:55:20

If the dollar keeps falling, whats the point in outsourcing. Are not the benefits of outsourcing slowly being eroded away?
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Unread postby Ferretlover » Thu 24 Apr 2008, 23:56:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'T')he next wave of outsourcing is going to be taking fast food orders in the drive through.


I happen to know that drive up food orders in our local southern MN McDonalds are taken by people in Nebraska who then relay them back to the store.

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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 00:04:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'T')he next wave of outsourcing is going to be taking fast food orders in the drive through.


I happen to know that drive up food orders in our local southern MN McDonalds are taken by people in Nebraska who then relay them back to the store.

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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Prince » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:00:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HEADER_RACK', ' ')"Elo how may I elp you" 8O (heavy India accent)
Well I start to tell him I need a locksmith service and I'm getting this really bad echo of hearing my self talk. After about three sentences I lose it. "Where the hell is this echo coming from?!?!"
"Sir I opligize for the bad connection"
Let me tell you it's hard to talk on the phone when you are listening to yourself three words behind what you just said.
Anyways I tell him he is in a walgreens parking lot thats on the corner of Johnson st. and south college.
"Sir can you spell the name of the cross street?"
8O
"which one?"
"the one with the J"
j-o-h-n-s-o-n
"tank you sir"
So finaly I come to the end of the conversation and he is about to hang up.I have to ask him.
"where are you at? you personaly on the other end of this line"
" Sir we have a central office to answer all calls"
ok fine. " So where are you at? Are you in the United States?
"we have a central office to" YES YES you already said that but where are YOU at are you in the US?
"Sir do to security reasons we are not allowed to say where we are located"


Opligize (apologize)? Do (due)? Finaly (finally)? Personaly (personally)?

I understand your frustration, but in all fairness you really shouldn't be criticizing anyone's English or grammar, given that yours is third-grade quality at best. And don't try to tell me that you purposely misspelled these words for dramatic effect.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:05:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HEADER_RACK', ' ')"Elo how may I elp you" 8O (heavy India accent)
Well I start to tell him I need a locksmith service and I'm getting this really bad echo of hearing my self talk. After about three sentences I lose it. "Where the hell is this echo coming from?!?!"
"Sir I opligize for the bad connection"
Let me tell you it's hard to talk on the phone when you are listening to yourself three words behind what you just said.
Anyways I tell him he is in a walgreens parking lot thats on the corner of Johnson st. and south college.
"Sir can you spell the name of the cross street?"
8O
"which one?"
"the one with the J"
j-o-h-n-s-o-n
"tank you sir"
So finaly I come to the end of the conversation and he is about to hang up.I have to ask him.
"where are you at? you personaly on the other end of this line"
" Sir we have a central office to answer all calls"
ok fine. " So where are you at? Are you in the United States?
"we have a central office to" YES YES you already said that but where are YOU at are you in the US?
"Sir do to security reasons we are not allowed to say where we are located"


Opligize (apologize)? Do (due)? Finaly (finally)? Personaly (personally)?

I understand your frustration, but in all fairness you really shouldn't be criticizing anyone's English or grammar, given that yours is third-grade quality at best. And don't try to tell me that you purposely misspelled these words for dramatic effect.



That is pretty much what it looks like to me.

Somebody has their panties in a twist tonight.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Ache » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 01:46:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('HEADER_RACK', 'M')y brother calls me up and tells me he locked his keys in his truck and asked if I would call pop-a-lock. "Sure no problem" says I.
I call a local number and after what seemed a long time it rings.
"Elo how may I elp you" 8O (heavy India accent)
Well I start to tell him I need a locksmith service and I'm getting this really bad echo of hearing my self talk. After about three sentences I lose it. "Where the hell is this echo coming from?!?!"
"Sir I opligize for the bad connection"
Let me tell you it's hard to talk on the phone when you are listening to yourself three words behind what you just said.
Anyways I tell him he is in a walgreens parking lot thats on the corner of Johnson st. and south college.
"Sir can you spell the name of the cross street?"
8O
"which one?"
"the one with the J"
j-o-h-n-s-o-n
"tank you sir"
So finaly I come to the end of the conversation and he is about to hang up.I have to ask him.
"where are you at? you personaly on the other end of this line"
" Sir we have a central office to answer all calls"
ok fine. " So where are you at? Are you in the United States?
"we have a central office to" YES YES you already said that but where are YOU at are you in the US?
"Sir do to security reasons we are not allowed to say where we are located"

We are so screwed!!! When you call a local number to get a local service and you have to go through a phone call on the other side of the world so they can in turn call another number back on this side of the world to have a guy 10 mins away go and meet someone in a parkinglot. THERE IS NO HOPE!!!!
If they have food shortages and start to die-off. I can't get a guy on the phone down the street to come help me out.


http://www.iqpc.com.sg/News.aspx?id=116 ... CallCenter

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')Popular American dance music is playing, phones are ringing and sounds of "thank you for holding" fill the call center at an office park in the outskirts of this bustling city.

"Did you unplug everything from the radio?" the Dominican customer service agent asked her American client, with just the ever-slightest touch of an accent. As the Dominican Republic taps into its returning immigrant population to become the Caribbean's leader in the call center industry, few would notice her inflection. And that's the idea.

The Dominican Republic has embarked on an aggressive campaign to ditch its tropical tourism image in favor of one that's a bit more technological. The country is banking on both its proximity and family ties to the United States to snatch up growing call center commerce as more and more industries seek business operations closer to home -- and more Americans are frustrated with customer service operators with accents from Asia.

The government in Santo Domingo is offering incentives, sending thousands of young people to English immersion school and clearing out failed textile factories to make room for one of the biggest trends in telecommunications: the Caribbean. The number of agents in the Caribbean increased fivefold in six years.

The Dominican Republic is not alone. Call centers -- even one for AOL -- have spread in St. Lucia, Barbados, Trinidad and Dominica, with an economic impact of at least $2.5 billion in the Caribbean alone, analysts say. Other countries in Latin America that have become magnets for call centers are Costa Rica and Panama.

"The perception that used to prevail was that the Dominican Republic was mostly a location for tourism with great beaches, a land of sugar and baseball," said Eddy Martinez, the Dominican Republic's secretary for exports and investments. "The image out there was a distorted one. That image did not include the fact that we have the most sophisticated and advanced telecom infrastructure in the entire Latin America and Caribbean region."

Four years ago, the country had just 11 call centers. Now, there are 56 and nearly 25,000 employees who, at salaries of up to $650 a month, earn two or three times the going rate for comparable jobs. With more and more companies looking to expand in Spanish-speaking markets, Martinez said he expects to see 100,000 call center jobs in the next four years.

The government hopes to fill the posts with the thousands of students given scholarships to take nine-month English immersion courses.

The Caribbean region has about 60,000 call center jobs. The Dominican Republic is the Caribbean's industry leader, with Jamaica close behind with about 17,000 international call center jobs, according to Zagada Markets, a telecommunications consulting firm.

CULTURE CONNECTION

But Martinez said the top selling point for Santo Domingo is not just low labor costs or Spanish speakers, but culture. The bulk of the call center jobs are in English, and this nation of 10 million people has 1 million of its countrymen living in the United States.

"The Dominican Republic has a great cultural affinity for the United States," he said. "We've grown up with cable TV, CNN and U.S. channels and movies."

And besides, he said, "They don't play baseball in India."

Experts agree that a cultural connection is critical. After thousands of companies outsourced their call center operations to India and the Philippines in the past decade, more and more customers lashed back. They have balked at agents they can't understand or who are puzzled by idiomatic expressions like "I've lost my mind!"

So Caribbean call centers from Jamaica to Barbados are hoping their familiarity with everything from American sports and music will pay off for repeat business.

"People in the United States are complaining profusely of not being able to understand or not being understood," said industry consultant Philip Peters, CEO of Coral Gables-based Zagada Markets. "It's like a representative in Congress: they vote you in or out. Customers are voting certain call center locations out of office."

The Caribbean's share of the call center industry still dwarfs places like India, which has 400,000 call center agents in a country with a population of 1.1 billion people.

But Peters warns that the Dominican government's strategy to lure foreign call center companies is risky because multinationals come quickly -- and often leave just as fast. The next challenge, he said, is for the government to develop locally owned call center companies that would be more inclined to weather market ups and downs.

POSITIVE REVIEWS

That said, the nation is becoming an industry leader largely because of positive reviews for quick problem-solving response times.

"You can have great government policy, low labor costs and good demographics, but at the end of the day if the service quality was low, you would not get a lot of new business," he said.

Roger Meier, vice president of the Caribbean Stream call center company, said the Dominican Republic represents just one of the 16 nations where Stream does business, but the company is looking for more sites.

"One of the reasons we've gone to Santo Domingo first and foremost is quality of the people," Meier said by phone from Costa Rica. "The people are responsive to whatever goes on in the United States. They've lived there, traveled there and understand the U.S."

He said just 1,500 of the company's 16,000 worldwide jobs are currently in the Dominican Republic. Another 4,500 are in the United States, which has been losing ground in the industry as companies seek lower labor and telecom rates.

Meier acknowledged the challenges of working in developing countries, such as natural disasters or energy shortages. During The Miami Herald's visit to its Santo Domingo call center, the lights at Stream went out three times.

"The power went out," Meier said, "but the phones never stopped working."
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Eli » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 02:17:38

Pop just in time delivery is what I am counting on.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Fri 25 Apr 2008, 23:18:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his entire [s]thread[/s] WEBSITE / FORUMMM can be summarized as .... LEFT BRAIN INSANITY all detail no big picture.... :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

Here is the big picture.
You are born
You live
You slowly die
The end.

That is all that really matters, everything beyond that, is for people with to much free fucking time on their hands to write theories about, in order to make themselves feel more important than what they really are. Speculation and hypothesis are just tools of those who don't want to accept that they are nothing more than a shit throwing monkey.

People think they are getting answers every day, only to find out tomorrow that they didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but today "magically" they are right. Guess what tomorrow you are going to wake up and realize something else, and that realization will lead you to another piece of the clue and that will lead to another clue.

There are no answers, only more and more questions. Most people spend their lives in search of something that has no meaning. Sure we find answers that may satisfy our curiosity for awhile, but sooner or later you are going to wake up and go "oh shit" I could have been outside, fucking, golfing, having fun... but instead I wasted my life in pursuit of the unknowable and I have nothing to show for it... Even Einstein realized in the end that his pursuit had created a weapon capable of destroying civilization.

All of these so called experts, scientists, philosophers, theologians have done, is to bring about a world where we have a ton of scientific knowledge but in doing so have doomed our posterity to a slow painful death. That my friend; is the big fucking picture. But what the hell do I know, I am just the village idiot on a forum full of expert doomers.
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Re: Explain this to me PLEASE!!

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 26 Apr 2008, 16:03:55

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