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Re: Jenab - how have your plans worked out so far?

Unread postby Jenab6 » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 00:47:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benzoil', 'A')pparently, the "certain demographic group" was not coal miners or hillbillies.

Coal miners are men who work hard. Unlike lazy, welfare sucking, uh, demographics. And hillbillies? I am one. So was Dr. William Pierce. Both of us formerly physicists. The media has done a propaganda making Whites look dumb and Blacks look smart: the reality, which you will learn if you get out more and expand your horizons, is better reflected by comprehensive national surveys and official sources (SAT scores, FBI crime statistics, per capita rate of STD infection, per capita rate of single-parent families, per capita rate of welfare mooching, etc.) than by TV and movie propaganda (smart Black chopper pilot saves the day with his quick thinking, doing calculus in his head, speaking five languages on the radio set he's just repaired, etc.).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'H')atred comes from fear. Fear is a manifestation of feelling inadequate. By contrast, when people feel adequate to deal with life, they feel confident, and have no need to hate others. Each of those conditions feed upon themselves, without outside influence.

Hatred comes from oppression, threat, and injury. Fear, such as it is, is usually related to the prospect of being hurt or learning that someone you care about has been hurt. Humans are what they are: wild primates with built-in tribal instincts. They are not what well-intentioned Aunt Nellies would like them to be, and the expectation that races are just going to get along is forever going to be disappointed. I predict that "confident" Mr. Patience, upon "confidently" entering a Black bar in Atlanta and ordering a drink, will quickly have his confidence beaten out of him, and that his fairly spoken egalitarian sentiments will avail him not at all. The power of positive thinking will only get you so far.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'T')he world's great thinkers figured that out long ago, and urged us to love our fellow man, lest we degrade into killing each other. It seems that not very many people listened to that.

There's a tragedy in the commons here that Patience isn't noticing. First, not all of our fellow men are among the world's great thinkers. What a pity, huh? If we were all great thinkers, we might all have figured out that races should not mix so that the tribal instinct will not have to suffer continuous affront. Any argument that begins, or that might as well begin, with the words "If people would..." is a waste of breath. In their masses, people either do a thing, or they do not, and Aunt Nellie's scoldings and sermons aren't going to avail a darn thing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'B')ut yes, Jenab has done some good planning. I'd suggest that he include more people in his plans, and learn the healthy benefits of community.

Some of that will be automatic in my area. This county is low population density, and the locals can feed themselves and each other if they will work at it. Once they've gotten their system going, I'll offer to trade apples, walnuts, cigarette lighters, and so forth to them in exchange for what I lack (if indeed I need anything). They'll never know how much discretion I have in my relationship with them unless I choose to tell them.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'A')part from the inconvenient fact that society still hasn't collapsed? Darn, where is an apocalypse when you need one? How else are you going to get rid of all of that "certain demographic group?"

Isn't Vermont something like 99% white? Rent's cheaper here in South Central, why don't you move in? You can buy a house in Detroit for $500, hell you can buy ten of them for $5,000. Why stay in boring Vermont?

Because living in an area that is 99% White is more than 100 times better than living in an area that is less than 50% White. Even the market knows it, which is why you can scarcely even give away real estate in Detroit. If I want fun, I'd rather search JPL's small body database for killer asteroids than become a body after a drive-by shooting by, uh, "demographic" killers.

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Re: Jenab - how have your plans worked out so far?

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 09:58:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Devin', 'T')his would be an interesting thread if both sides could be respectful of others' beliefs about race and politics, as repugnant or misguided as they may seem.

It's interesting to hear about your preparations, Jenab. Are you planning for only yourself, or for a family and/or community as well? I've heard several of your ideas about eugenics and race, and while I am not interested in the slightest about giving you a platform for promoting your ideals, I do find myself wondering how other humans ("wild primates with tribal instincts") factor into your plans.


You dont have to respect his beliefs, but you should however acknowledge the supporting facts for them.

The fact is what he said is correct. If you dont like his belief perhaps you should work to change the underlying statistics that cause him to have it? And a hell of a lot of people share his view.
Ever hear of White Flight? It aint the release of the doves at weddings, I can tell you that.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'T')he media has done a propaganda making Whites look dumb and Blacks look smart: the reality, which you will learn if you get out more and expand your horizons, is better reflected by comprehensive national surveys and official sources (SAT scores, FBI crime statistics, per capita rate of STD infection, per capita rate of single-parent families, per capita rate of welfare mooching, etc.) than by TV and movie propaganda (smart Black chopper pilot saves the day with his quick thinking, doing calculus in his head, speaking five languages on the radio set he's just repaired, etc.).
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Re: Jenab - how have your plans worked out so far?

Unread postby allenwrench » Sat 21 Jun 2008, 10:54:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benzoil', 'A')pparently, the "certain demographic group" was not coal miners or hillbillies.

Coal miners are men who work hard. Unlike lazy, welfare sucking, uh, demographics. And hillbillies? I am one. So was Dr. William Pierce. Both of us formerly physicists. The media has done a propaganda making Whites look dumb and Blacks look smart: the reality, which you will learn if you get out more and expand your horizons, is better reflected by comprehensive national surveys and official sources (SAT scores, FBI crime statistics, per capita rate of STD infection, per capita rate of single-parent families, per capita rate of welfare mooching, etc.) than by TV and movie propaganda (smart Black chopper pilot saves the day with his quick thinking, doing calculus in his head, speaking five languages on the radio set he's just repaired, etc.).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'H')atred comes from fear. Fear is a manifestation of feelling inadequate. By contrast, when people feel adequate to deal with life, they feel confident, and have no need to hate others. Each of those conditions feed upon themselves, without outside influence.

Hatred comes from oppression, threat, and injury. Fear, such as it is, is usually related to the prospect of being hurt or learning that someone you care about has been hurt. Humans are what they are: wild primates with built-in tribal instincts. They are not what well-intentioned Aunt Nellies would like them to be, and the expectation that races are just going to get along is forever going to be disappointed. I predict that "confident" Mr. Patience, upon "confidently" entering a Black bar in Atlanta and ordering a drink, will quickly have his confidence beaten out of him, and that his fairly spoken egalitarian sentiments will avail him not at all. The power of positive thinking will only get you so far.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'T')he world's great thinkers figured that out long ago, and urged us to love our fellow man, lest we degrade into killing each other. It seems that not very many people listened to that.

There's a tragedy in the commons here that Patience isn't noticing. First, not all of our fellow men are among the world's great thinkers. What a pity, huh? If we were all great thinkers, we might all have figured out that races should not mix so that the tribal instinct will not have to suffer continuous affront. Any argument that begins, or that might as well begin, with the words "If people would..." is a waste of breath. In their masses, people either do a thing, or they do not, and Aunt Nellie's scoldings and sermons aren't going to avail a darn thing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'B')ut yes, Jenab has done some good planning. I'd suggest that he include more people in his plans, and learn the healthy benefits of community.

Some of that will be automatic in my area. This county is low population density, and the locals can feed themselves and each other if they will work at it. Once they've gotten their system going, I'll offer to trade apples, walnuts, cigarette lighters, and so forth to them in exchange for what I lack (if indeed I need anything). They'll never know how much discretion I have in my relationship with them unless I choose to tell them.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'A')part from the inconvenient fact that society still hasn't collapsed? Darn, where is an apocalypse when you need one? How else are you going to get rid of all of that "certain demographic group?"
Isn't Vermont something like 99% white? Rent's cheaper here in South Central, why don't you move in? You can buy a house in Detroit for $500, hell you can buy ten of them for $5,000. Why stay in boring Vermont?
Because living in an area that is 99% White is more than 100 times better than living in an area that is less than 50% White. Even the market knows it, which is why you can scarcely even give away real estate in Detroit. If I want fun, I'd rather search JPL's small body database for killer asteroids than become a body after a drive-by shooting by, uh, "demographic" killers.

Jerry Abbott


Yes, coal miners work real hard.

Coal was looked down upon for many years. But coal will be king shortly as the crude, NG and uranium runs out.

The World Coal Institute estimates world energy reserves as follows:

"At current production levels coal will be available for at least the next 155 years compared to 41 years for oil and 65 years for gas."

http://www.worldcoal.org/pages/content/ ... ?PageID=21
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