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Embrio

Unread postby Carlhole » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 01:34:45

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('source', 'T')he Embrio is powered by a hydrogen fuel cell, a technology that creates power by mixing hydrogen and oxygen, ideally resulting in water as the only exhaust. Carmakers are also developing this technology for automobiles, and General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) stands by its plan to sell hydrogen cars by 2010.

The Embrio also borrows several other advanced technologies from cars, like infrared night vision and an active suspension, which can vary its damping rates based on road conditions. Its riding position resembles that of a motorcycle, and it balances one or more passengers with a network of sensors and gyroscopes. To move the Embrio, you use an accelerator trigger on the left handlebar and a brake trigger on the right.
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby aldente » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 02:18:47

Fancy design but a nuisence when accelerated full speed - there is a reason why motorcycles have two wheels (the back of my head hurts now).
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby bobcousins » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 05:40:29

I know Carlhole has difficulty telling fantasy from reality, but this is a 3 year old concept design, i.e marketing science fiction. It only exists as a computer graphic.
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby skeptic » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 06:11:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', ' ')It only exists as a computer graphic.
Thats a computer graphic not a mock up? Had me fooled. Top quality work. A round of applause for the artist. Excellent lighting and texture.
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 06:28:04

Where do they attach the training wheels?
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby aldente » Mon 17 Apr 2006, 20:46:43

Reading the actual article I see where Bombardier is comming from, essentially the Segway technology. The second set of wheels for start and stop is actually visible in front, quote:
Once the Embrio is in motion, the landing gear will retract when the vehicle reaches about 12 mph. During braking, the gear redeploys when the vehicle slows to 12 mph.

I sure'd like to test ride it, would certainly be a different experience than riding my 550 Suzuki built in 1982.
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 17 Apr 2006, 21:02:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'R')eading the actual article I see where Bombardier is comming from, essentially the Segway technology. The second set of wheels for start and stop is actually visible in front, quote:
Once the Embrio is in motion, the landing gear will retract when the vehicle reaches about 12 mph. During braking, the gear redeploys when the vehicle slows to 12 mph.

I sure'd like to test ride it, would certainly be a different experience than riding my 550 Suzuki built in 1982.


I know I am a bit dense at times, but other than marketing what would be the advantage of having a unicycle motorcycle vs a bicycle motorcycle?
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby aldente » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 00:16:57

The sheer novelty of the device and the way how compact it is built. Imagine this vehicle would zip right and left in front of you while you're sitting somewhere on the endlessly traffic jammed freeways of Los Angeles. You would want it as much as you would want anything to get out of the situation. It is the anti-SUV, a new promise of freedom.
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby lorenzo » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 09:54:51

Had seen it before on gizmag.

Is it going to replace the car? No it isn't. Is it going to change the number of kilometres people will be driving in ordinary cars? No it isn't.
So chances are that this is going to be something people buy next to a car, to use it as a hobby, with the effect that they simply use even more energy than they already did.

Nice design and concept though.
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Re: Embrio

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 15:01:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', 'I') know Carlhole has difficulty telling fantasy from reality, but this is a 3 year old concept design, i.e marketing science fiction. It only exists as a computer graphic.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'H')ad seen it before on gizmag.

Is it going to replace the car? No it isn't. Is it going to change the number of kilometres people will be driving in ordinary cars? No it isn't.
So chances are that this is going to be something people buy next to a car, to use it as a hobby, with the effect that they simply use even more energy than they already did.


Oh come on, people! It's just a cool looking artistic machine that could actually work.

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The Electric Eunicycle

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Trevor Blackwell', 'S')ome time ago I built a self-balancing two-wheeled scooter. Since then I realized that two wheels are redundant, and only a single wheel is needed to make a ridable vehicle. A vehicle with a single wheel is much smaller and lighter. It weighs under 30 lbs and is easily carried with one hand when going up stairs or on public transportation.

The Electric Unicycle's only control is the on-off switch. The rider controls everything else by shifting his weight. You lean forward to accelerate, lean backwards to brake, and gyrate your arms wildly to turn. With a little practice you can get more graceful and keep your arms mostly by your side.

The unicycle balances itself using a simple feedback loop between a solid-state gyroscope and the wheel motor. When it detects itself tilting forward, it runs the wheel forward to keep it vertical. When it detects itself tilting backwards it runs the wheel backwards. It does this so rapidly (200 updates per second) that it feels perfectly smooth. This is really the same thing that a conventional unicycle rider does with his legs.

Although I could have reused the electronics for my balancing scooter, I designed a better system, partly to lower cost and partly to improve performance. Version 1 of the scooter used a RoboteQ motor controller, which takes tens of milliseconds to respond to motor speed commands. The unicycle uses an OSMC motor controller which takes a PWM drive signal directly from the microcontroller, reducing delay to less than a millisecond. The result is a smoother, stiffer feel with less wobble. It's also smaller, lighter, and cheaper.
Building your own

Feel the need to look more eccentric as you cruise the neighborhood? Build your own electric unicycle! You need the parts listed below, some welding, fabrication, electronics, programming, and control skills, some physical skill, and some bravery. My code is downloadable below, but you'll probably need to tweak it a bit for your exact electronics & hardware configuration. Or better yet, build something else and tell me about it! There are lots of possibilities for balancing vehicles that haven't been explored.

What I said about safety for the two wheel scooter applies, but there is a major difference. While the 2-wheeled scooter is easy to ride (I've let maybe 100 people ride it without a single fatality) the Electric Unicycle takes a good deal of practice. You don't want to be learning how to control such a vehicle at the same time as debugging it, so you really need to learn to ride a regular unicycle first. I got a "United 24-inch Trainer for Extra Large Adults" from Unicycle.com and spent a couple months learning to ride it before I built the electric version.
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