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Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 21:18:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')if you're on that no fly list, your access to the right to bear arms is canceled, because you're not part of the American family

Sorry Rahm, human rights are granted by God. Serial killer Obama can kill all he wants however. link
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 21:37:19

I suppose it shouldn't, but it just never ceases to floor me when I hear people get up in front of a special interest group and rant about the evils of special interest groups. People just really don't get that they ARE a special interest group.

And Emanuel Rahm is an asshat.
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 21:49:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'A')nd Emanuel Rahm is an asshat.

Fortunately he isn't in a position to be able to deprive us of our Constitutional rights.
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 22:03:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'A')nd Emanuel Rahm is an asshat.
Fortunately he isn't in a position to be able to deprive us of our Constitutional rights.

Rahm Emmanuel is the second most powerful person in the country
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 22:43:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'R')ahm Emmanuel is the second most powerful person in the country


Yeah. The fact that he wants to strip people of their civil rights based on a completely secret and unaccountable system of suspicion...that's fine. Cracking his nuckles in public, though, is just going too far. :roll:
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 22:55:50

Do you think he has the power to deprive us of our Constitutional rights?
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Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 23:30:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')o you think he has the power to deprive us of our Constitutional rights?


Consider that Bush couldn't roll back Roe v Wade despite stacking the courts with "loyal bushies".
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby Cloud9 » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 07:45:16

This is actually a pretty smart move. It makes the defenders of the right seem as though they are siding with terrorists. Too few realize that with a mere stroke of the pen, they too will have lost their rights.
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby IslandCrow » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 08:23:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')o you think he has the power to deprive us of our Constitutional rights?


But it was not in the original consitution, was it? So people who support the pure constitution should be cheering this move, to get back to the pure document of the founders' intentions. :roll:
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 09:39:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', 'B')ut it was not in the original consitution, was it? So people who support the pure constitution should be cheering this move, to get back to the pure document of the founders' intentions. :roll:

Yeah, let's embrace the 3/5ths rule again.

The constitution is like an operating system. It can be patched (amendments). Luckily they set some pretty high hurdles in order to do that, which has generally prevented abuse (except for prohibition).
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby mattduke » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 10:54:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'D')o you think he has the power to deprive us of our Constitutional rights?
But it was not in the original consitution, was it? So people who support the pure constitution should be cheering this move, to get back to the pure document of the founders' intentions.

This is exactly why there was such debate AGAINST the bill of rights: it would be interpreted as THE list of rights. Rights are merely things the government cannot do. The Constitution therefore creates a very small list of things the government CAN do. The bill of rights is extraneous. Anulling the 2nd Amendment would not eliminate your right to bear arms.
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby Chuckmak » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 14:48:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'A')nd Emanuel Rahm is an asshat.

i love the term asshat 8)
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 03 Feb 2009, 20:57:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', 'T')he No-Fly list is an unconstitutional (ha ha) secret database of individuals created without due process to prevent "high risk" individuals from engaging in travel.


TSA is most definitely on my shit list today. Their version, they couldn't tell the difference between my flashlight and a bomb. My version, they work in a dumpy little rural airport with zero potential for ever encountering a real terrorist. They get bored and decide to entertain themselves by screwing with the passengers. So, they do the whole rifle through your bags bit. For some reason the little swabby thing inside my bag comes up positive. So now they really start rifling through my stuff. While one of them is groping me ("patting down") the other one dumps everything out of my purse. Starts reading through my appointment book, etc. The sad thing is that most people really don't see a problem with the sorry state of affairs in this country. When Barney Fife gives them the rubber glove treatment, it actually makes them feel safer.

Of course, I suppose it's not surprising that the sort of sad human being that would join the Brady Campaign would probably also feel like they were being protected by something like no-fly lists. The standards for depriving people of their civil rights in this country have dropped so low they virtually don't exist. Why not take away your second amendment rights and kick them out of the American family because some clown at the FBI heard a rumor that maybe someone with a similar name to yours might be up to something bad. This whole innocent until proven guilty thing is too cumbersome. Innocent until we hear a rumor that your guilty makes things so much easier.
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Re: Emanuel Rahm: No Fly List = No 2nd Amendment

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 04 Feb 2009, 00:25:00

This is why I will never fly again unless forced to by my job. Thank god the depression took care of most of those trips.
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