[Cog]

This is nothing more than a coup d'état attempt by the deep state. Its blatantly obvious at this point. Mueller intends to slow roll this investigation so that the Democrats can gain the House and Senate in 2018 and then impeach Trump. Not for any crimes he committed but because an outsider was not supposed to win this.

It is also the intelligence branches and law enforcement branches have been fully compromised. If they will act this way towards a duly elected president, what do you think they will do to you if you oppose them?

Keep your powder dry, this is going to get all sorts of interesting.

[Plantagenet]

The justice department just announced that the DOJ inspector general will be expanding his review of Obama era malfeasance in the FBI and DOJ to include a review of the FBI spying that was done on the Trump campaign.

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No wonder the DOJ and FBI opposed the unmasking of the spy. The revelation that the FBI spy was the same guy who told Papadoplous that the Russians had dirt on Hillary means that no Russians were invovled in telling Papadapolous that the Russians had dirt on Hillary. The whole story originated in the FBI. When the FBI plants a story and then starts an investigation because of the the very story they planted, the whole thing was clearly an FBI/CIA entrapment false flag operation.

This is a critical revelation, because Comey, the former FBI director, testified under oath that the FBI surveillance of the Trump campaign started after an Australian diplomat reported that Papadoplous told him at a party that the Russians had dirt on Hillary's emails. Clearly Comey is lying since we now know the FBI/CIA spy was spying on the Trump campaign BEFORE that party....we know the FBI spy paid for Papadopolous to fly to London, and we know the story that the Russians had dirt on Hilalry actually is what the FBI spy himself said to Papadoplous.

So now we know the FBI says it started investigating the Trump campaign after an FBI asset spying on the Trump campaign planted the very story that the FBI began investigating.

Wow. Thats a pretty clear False Flag operation by the FBI.

Cheers!


It was a classic false flag operation: An FBI spy paid a Trump campaign advisor $3000 and also paid for his trip to London where the FBI spy told the Trump advisor the story about the Russians having Hillary's emails that the FBI now claims started its investigation of the Trump Campaign.

[Plantagenet]

The curious story of how the FBI Russia investigation got started just got even curiouser.

Yesterday we found out that an FBI spy told the story of the Russians having Hillary's emails to a Trump advisor, and then when the Trump advisor told an Australian diplomat the same story the FBI started investigating the Trump campaign. That was clear FBI entrapment.

We also learned that Peter Strozk, the fanatical D supporter and FBI agent, flew to London at the same time to run an anti-Trump project called "Crossfire Hurricane."

AND today we find out the Australian diplomat who so nobly told the US government that a Trump advisor said the Russians had Hillary's email-----is a huge donor to the Clinton Foundation. Apparently he personally wrote a 25 million dollar check to the Clinton Foundation. Wow!

So now there are three strands of this operation that are looking a bit suspicious. Why was an FBI spy directed to spy on the Trump campaign BEFORE the FBI says it ever started spying on the Trump Campaign? Who directed the spy to spy, since Comey claims under oath he didn't do it. Why did the FBI spy pay for a young Trump advisor to fly to London, give him $3000 for walking around money, and then tell him the Russians had Hillary's emails? Was it just coincidence that one of Hillary's biggest foreign supporters just happened to be at the party where the Trump advisor repeated the story the FBI spy had told him? And is it a crime to repeat a lie that a lying FBI spy tells to someone? And why was fanatical D and obsessive text messenger and star-crossed lover of another man's wife Peter Strozk in London at the same time?

Of course this could be all just coincidence. But it also looks like a set up. The FBI agent "sets up" the young Trump advisor by flying him to London and telling him the phony story about the Russians having Hillary's emails. Then the Australian diplomat and big time Clinton donor is at the very party that the spy had set up for the young Trump Advisor and he seeks him out and talks to the young Trump advisor about Russia and Hillary's emails. Voila----the set up is complete. Peter Strozk's plot for Crossfire Hurricane is a success!


Steven Halper---the FBI spy who was spying on the Trump Campaign before the FBI says it had started spying on the Trump Campaign.

Cheers!

[Plantagenet]

The Obama administration paid Mr. Halperin, the FBI/CIA spy, ca. 1.1 million dollars to be a part-time spy.

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Wow. Who ever dreamed that being a part-time spy for the FBI would pay so well. Of course he had to be sleazy enough to do the dirty work of subverting an American election, but some people value money so highly they don't care about anything else.

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Now that his cover is blown, its time for Mr. Halperin to be the Spy that comes in from the cold, and spill the beans on who told him to start spying on the Trump Campaign. According to Comey it wasn't him.....so who the heck did it?


Time for Mr. Halperin to be put under oath and to reveal who his co-conspirators were in spying on the Trump Campaign and planting the false info about the Russians that led to the Mueller investigation.

Cheers!

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he Obama administration paid Mr. Halperin, the FBI/CIA spy, ca. 1.1 million dollars to be a part-time spy.

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Wow. Who ever dreamed that being a part-time spy for the FBI would pay so well. Of course he had to be sleazy enough to do the dirty work of subverting an American election, but some people value money so highly they don't care about anything else.

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Now that his cover is blown, its time for Mr. Halperin to be the Spy that comes in from the cold, and spill the beans on who told him to start spying on the Trump Campaign. According to Comey it wasn't him.....so who the heck did it?


Time for Mr. Halperin to be put under oath and to reveal who his co-conspirators were in spying on the Trump Campaign and planting the false info about the Russians that led to the Mueller investigation.

Cheers!

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', ' ')liberals ... say if the Obama campaign suspected Trump of wrongdoing, they should have been investigating him, and should have used informants, and that's standard practice.

[Plantagenet]

There may have been a second spy sent by the Obama administration to infiltrate the Trump campaign

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We already know the Obama people politicized the IRS and FBI and set up small groups within these agencies to go after the Rs. Possibly the Ds subverted another agency as well?

Cheers!

[Outcast_Searcher]

Once again, I'm not taking sides because instead of speculating, I'd like to see the facts come out. However, as I've said, there are two sides to this story. As I predicted, the dems and at least part of the MSM are calling much of this nonsense.

Plant seems to be taking Trump's side in this.

So for some balance:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/ ... nds-602723

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')Clapper: FBI was not spying on Trump

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Tuesday that the FBI was not at any point spying on the Trump campaign.

“They were not. They were spying — a term I don't particularly like — on what the Russians were doing," Clapper said during an appearance on The View to promote his new book, “Facts and Fears: Hard Truths From A Life In Intelligence.”

The FBI, Clapper said, was simply trying to answer the question, "Were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage and influence?"

[Cog]

Outcast_Searcher

You haven't followed the story or watched one minute of testimony in front of the House Intelligence committee, have you? But you feel compelled to give the corrupt FBI and the Obama administration a pass because you caught a 5 minute blurb on CNN that told you do so. Before you comment further, do your research. If you don't understand that the investigation into Donald Trump, both before and after the election, is an attempt to overturn an election result, you are truly clueless.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'O')utcast_Searcher

You haven't followed the story or watched one minute of testimony in front of the House Intelligence committee, have you? But you feel compelled to give the corrupt FBI and the Obama administration a pass because you caught a 5 minute blurb on CNN that told you do so. Before you comment further, do your research. If you don't understand that the investigation into Donald Trump, both before and after the election, is an attempt to overturn an election result, you are truly clueless.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Clapper: FBI was not spying on Trump

“They were spying — a term I don't particularly like — on what the Russians were doing,"

[Plantagenet]

New email release reveals collusion between top FBI officials and CNN over leaking DNC/Obama/Hillary Russia dossier

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The FBI and DOJ have been stonewalling over releasing emails, text messages, etc. concerning how the attack document funded by the DNC wound up being used as official intelligence to trick the FISA court into allowing surveillance (wiretapping ) of the Trump Campaign, and how it was subsequently leaked to the press.

But the revelation that a rogue FBI agent was spying on the Trump campaign BEFORE the FBI began its investigation has really shaken things up in DC. Trump held a meeting at the White House yesterday and insisted the DOJ and FBI stop stonewalling requests for documents.....and today we get this new release of emails that show top FBI officials apparently colluding with CNN to leak the DNC/Obama/Hillary Russia dossier.

Cheers!

[Cog]

The DOJ and FBI seemed to have forgotten they are under the oversight authority of the Congress. The entire purpose of Comey officially briefing Trump about the investigation, was so CNN could go ahead and run their story that the FBI had leaked to them. The collusion between the FBI, the media, and the Obama White House is no longer under dispute. How deep it went is what Congress is attempting to find out.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')he DOJ and FBI seemed to have forgotten they are under the oversight authority of the Congress.

[Plantagenet]

Mueller makes second request to delay Russian trail after his first request is rejected by judge

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The problem for Mueller is that federal law requires a speedy trial once the indictment is filed with the court. The defendants in Russia have hired US lawyers and the lawyers are in court want to go to trial. Mueller, on the other hand, is seeking an indefinite delay claiming that the case is too complex for him to prosecute.

Is Mueller an idiot? Why did he file the indictment if the case was so complicated he didn't understand it well enough to actually go to trial? If Mueller had any sense he would've waited to file the indictment until he actually understood the facts of the case. Now the whole case against the Russians is at risk of being thrown out because Mueller isn't ready to actually prosecute the case, as required by federal law. If the case gets thrown out Mueller will have wasted millions of dollars and a year of FBI and DOJ time on nothing. Mueller already looks like a fool for pleading with the court to delay the trial on the basis thats its too complicated for him to understand. And if the judge decides to throw the case out entirely Mueller will look like a fool because it will appear as though he filed an indictment just to hold a press conference without doing the work required to actually go to court.


Yes Mueller indicted a group of Russians for meddling in the US election, but the case may get thrown out of court because Mueller says the case is too complex for him to understand. Mueller is seeking to delay the trial until he can understand it, but long delays in federal trial for no good reason are a violation of the federal "speedy trials" law.

SHEEESH!

[Cog]

[Newfie]

Outcast,

I agree all the “he said, she said” drama is getting old, very old. I don’t know enough to sort it all out. Yet, I admit I’m starting to lean towards the R view on this one. I’ve seen some pieces by the Hill and USA Today, relatively middle road organizations, critical of the DOJ/FBI.

That aside consider this.... IF Trump colluded with a foreign power to throw the election then that is a very, very BIG deal and it should be dealt with directly. If Trump did that then the SOB should not be allowed to stand in office one day more.

However Mueller is over a year into it and is yet to show any pertinent progress. There are no signs of him releasing any definitive damning information. But in the meantime it is hamstring Trumps presidency and distracts the country from more important issues.

Mueller owes it to the country to put up or shut up. Make your case or bring it to a close so we can get about our business.

To my mind Mueller’s prosecution of the matter seems more aimed at fanning the fires of hatred for political aims.

I for one want to see this investigation concluded ASAP. Surely this month. Rothstein (sp?) should give him a date certain to conclude and present his info.

The country needs to get beyond this mess.