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This is why death scares nearly everyone. It is impossible to abstractly conceptualize what it's like to not exist.
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Death & Birth
Re: Death & Birth
by bodigami » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 22:32:00
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I want to say one more thing. It's a pity that most people don't really enjoy living while they are alive, and waste their lives decieving themselves and others that their god/goddess/gods will grant them a better one. For this reason but not only this one I condemn all religions except satanism as enemies of life and worshippers of death.
Suicide bombers think that after they die they will get their reward of 72 virgins in heaven. Just an example to show what delusions of afterlife can make from humans.
Satanism as the workshipers of the God of Evil or as workshipers of the "pagan" Gods and Goddesses? Is this a joke? What about Buddhism?
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Re: Death & Birth
by bodigami » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 22:34:16
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'A')s far as life after death and matters of the spirit, PMS. Though I thought I had an "agnostic stance, I realized that the sub conscious mind, at least my subconscious, divided things very neatly into the categories of true and false, and I was actually deluding myself by thinking I was an agnostic. I was actually, processing information about anything esoteric or spiritual through the, "it is false", or atheism. Furthermore, I realized that it didn't matter how hard I tried to retain a middle ground, my subconscious HAD to process this info, one of two ways. It seemed to be a hard wiring problem.
So I kind of tricked my subconscious, by approaching it logically. I thought, processing the esoteric, as if it's all false, in the absence of unequivocal solid proof that it actually IS false, is no more logical than the other stance. In that case, it becomes a matter of choice. So I chose the other side, almost for the purpose of argument. Believe me, this was no epiphany. It was a purely mental exercise.
But an interesting thing happened when I chose the alternative YES category over the no. I allowed myself to look at an entire body of knowledge that I would not have even bothered looking at before. And not religious work, necessarily, but information that seemed as scientifically rigorous as anything else I'd seen. That seemed to be the key. I gained understanding of the tricks of the subconscious, made a deliberate choice to be receptive to looking at information, that would otherwise repel me.
So I kind of tricked my subconscious, by approaching it logically. I thought, processing the esoteric, as if it's all false, in the absence of unequivocal solid proof that it actually IS false, is no more logical than the other stance. In that case, it becomes a matter of choice. So I chose the other side, almost for the purpose of argument. Believe me, this was no epiphany. It was a purely mental exercise.
But an interesting thing happened when I chose the alternative YES category over the no. I allowed myself to look at an entire body of knowledge that I would not have even bothered looking at before. And not religious work, necessarily, but information that seemed as scientifically rigorous as anything else I'd seen. That seemed to be the key. I gained understanding of the tricks of the subconscious, made a deliberate choice to be receptive to looking at information, that would otherwise repel me.
Nice, but there's a type of logic that has "yes", "no" and "maybe"... which actually makes sense.
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Re: Death & Birth
by threadbear » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 22:38:03
Zensui, Please reread what I actually posted.
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Re: Death & Birth
by bodigami » Wed 16 Jan 2008, 22:38:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pixie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'C')an people tell that they're about to breathe their last breath? .
I am studying to be an EMT. My teachers have been paramedics for decades. All of them report that people who are about to die know it. They call it the "feeling of impending doom." Every conscious patient that kicks it of a heart attack or hemorrhage or whatever before reaching the hospital always says, "I feel like I'm going to die," sometime during the call. AND everyone who says that, does it.
It will be interesting to know if something similar happens with species, like homo "sapiens" after TSHTF. Isn't there some collective subconsious awareness of impending doom?
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