[Novus]

The difference between what is happening now and what has happened in the past is like the difference between a post holiday clearance special sale and a going out of business everything must go fire sale. It is balls to the wall for these markets and I don't expect them to survive.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he fact that the outcome will be a collective one seems a reasonable inference given that at that point in history we will have exhausted all others ranging from pure markets to corporatist interventionism and failed. A dying planet may possibly alter this picture otherwise I have yet to be convinced by any of the other options.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he fact that the outcome will be a collective one seems a reasonable inference given that at that point in history we will have exhausted all others ranging from pure markets to corporatist interventionism and failed. A dying planet may possibly alter this picture otherwise I have yet to be convinced by any of the other options.

[maestroe]

Marx was an ignorant illuminaty nepot.
He had scads of people come up with trash to delight the hubritic and lied a lot.

His only job was to dazzle them with Bullsh*t and present a target enemy so america would have an excuse to build a humongous militery, which they were obviously going to then just take over and rule the world with it.

See? Happened already., except the fat lady didn't have her heart attack yet, then it's over.

Philosphy is a pile of shit.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'T')ribalism is a form of collectivism. Perhaps the only setup, where communal approach is working.
However I rather see feudalism, not tribalism as longer term outcome of failure of capitalism.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SweetSmellofMoney', 'F')ellows, Currency is backed by your word and hard work not that of the Central Banks but the confidence that the man you are trading with has in you and you integrity and worth!

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'P')eople are going to be dieing so fast here its like Death Race 2000 to the Great Beyond. You won't get any stabilization until its dropped down to a Tribal level, so you can kiss off Feudalism. I know this is coming. I see Dead People

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'T')ribalism is a form of collectivism. Perhaps the only setup, where communal approach is working.
However I rather see feudalism, not tribalism as longer term outcome of failure of capitalism.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'T')hink about Roman collapse. Feudal fiefdoms speedily kicked in.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'A')t that later stages, when speed of collapse slow down, feudal systems will reemerge albeit they are most unlikely to remind anything like medieval kingdoms.

[nobodypanic]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('maestroe', 'M')arx was an ignorant illuminaty nepot.
He had scads of people come up with trash to delight the hubritic and lied a lot.
His only job was to dazzle them with Bullsh*t and present a target enemy so america would have an excuse to build a humongous militery, which they were obviously going to then just take over and rule the world with it.
See? Happened already., except the fat lady didn't have her heart attack yet, then it's over. Philosphy is a pile of crap.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'Y')ou also got no Church with money left over from the Roman Empire to organize up a Feudal State.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hogan', 'A')nd he still has ignorant followers today, even in the face of total economic armageddon. Go figure.

[nobodypanic]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'A')t that later stages, when speed of collapse slow down, feudal systems will reemerge albeit they are most unlikely to remind anything like medieval kingdoms.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'Y')ou don't think the churches in the bible belt have money with their megachurches?

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'Y')ou don't think the churches in the bible belt have money with their megachurches?

[Quinny]

I personally believe that this is the point that everyone who say's 'communism has failed' miss. It's only when you take things from a global POV that you can see the effectiveness of a system.
The fact that Marx also took the view that socialism would never work until there was the full globalisation of capital and a global working class
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he fact that the outcome will be a collective one seems a reasonable inference given that at that point in history we will have exhausted all others ranging from pure markets to corporatist interventionism and failed. A dying planet may possibly alter this picture otherwise I have yet to be convinced by any of the other options.

[Carlhole]

The economic crisis has spurred a re-newed interest in Marxism; Copies of Das Kapital have been flying off the shelves according to these reports.

And I've been hearing chatter here and there even from futurists and technophiles about how advanced computer technology, robotics and automation will inevitably lead to a re-think of our entire economic system - possibly along communistic lines.

There's a better article than the following one around somewhere but I can't remember where I saw it. But this one sort of hints at the broader subject of future political economy in an age of rapidly evolving machine intelligence.

Brainy Robots To Lead To Longer Unemployment Lines?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wired', 'R')obot lovers and outsourcing opponents could soon have something in common: the fear that their jobs are at stake.

In the future robots will take over many tasks performed by American workers today potentially leading to increased unemployment, says Marshall Brain, founder of How Stuff Works and author of e-book Robotic Nation.

"In theory we should all be able to go on a perpetual vacation as robots do all the work," Brain told attendees in a presentation at the Singularity Summit in San Jose. "Instead because of the way the economy is structured right now, when robots arrive it will have devastating effects on all of us because there will be so many unemployed people."

The implications of an increasingly automated economy could be dire for society unless we restructure our economy, he argues.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')Why would this failure impact on the nascent Asian consumer/worker who numbers a formidable 2 billion plus other than some vague risk posed by the loss of a percentage of one's market?