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Re: Condie's Logic
by Keith_McClary » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 01:49:23
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'T')he decision came because the new Hamas administration refused to accept "principles of non-violence, recognition of Israel
Uh, lets go back to 1945-48. When did any Zionists ever recognize ANY rights of Palestinians? The Zionists were busy smuggling in guns and bombs to murder League of Nations Mandate personnel so they could ethnically cleanse Palestine and grab the real estate for free. And when did the Zionists ever renounce terrorism and accept "principles of non-violence"?
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Re: Condie's Logic
by Jack » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 08:33:16
Thread moved to Open Discussion. The issue isn't a news item, but rather a discussion of political policy. It appears to be tangential to Peak Oil, and hence was not moved to Geopolitics.
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Re: Condie's Logic
by pedalling_faster » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 09:50:33
would the United States be giving $3 billion a year to Israel (etcetera) if the Middle East wasn't where the oil is ?
after getting caught loaning money to Hitler in 1942
Webster Tarpley's Website
... do you really think the sudden interest in Israel, in creating a home for the Jewish people, in 1948, was inspired by a love for the Jewish people ?
American policy towards Israel & the Mid-East is inextricably intertwined with Oil. admittedly, in 1948, it was pre-peak, but it was still about oil.
after getting caught loaning money to Hitler in 1942
Webster Tarpley's Website
... do you really think the sudden interest in Israel, in creating a home for the Jewish people, in 1948, was inspired by a love for the Jewish people ?
American policy towards Israel & the Mid-East is inextricably intertwined with Oil. admittedly, in 1948, it was pre-peak, but it was still about oil.
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Re: Condie's Logic
by Keith_McClary » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 23:33:32
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') agree with your statement that alot of factors went into us not expecting anything from Israel back in '48. But that was then and this is now, America has changed somewhat and so has the situation on the ground. Israel is a nation willing to live peacefully within the family of nations, and the Palestinians are not appearing to be very interested.
Are you aware of how the Jewish settlers have acquired Palestinian property since the 1967 occupation - without paying for it of course. Basically they run off the owners at gunpoint and then claim the property was "abandoned". Same method they used in 1948.
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')Right now, at this moment I submit that a two nation solution is the only answer to the crisis.
')I think we live in a world where a true fellowship of nations in a global marketplace is the only option we have going forward
By "global marketplace" you mean you have a right to other peoples' resources, right? And if they won't give them to you on your terms you invade them as you've been doing that for decades
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